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Laura Ingraham: Rand Paul is almost as bad as Jeb Bush on amnesty
Mofo Politics ^ | MFP

Posted on 06/23/2014 2:35:52 AM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

"Rand Paul took, I think, a really wrong-headed step on the immigration issue last week.

I mean, he’s not completely where Jeb is, but almost!"

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KEYWORDS: 113th; antiwardotcom; bush; drugs; illegals; jeb; lewrockwell; paul; rand; randsconcerntrolls; wod
Mofo fails to point out how Jeb and Rand differ in any significant way on the issue.
1 posted on 06/23/2014 2:35:52 AM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Probably the case. I will not vote for either of them in any capacity. I’m done with liars and RINOs.


2 posted on 06/23/2014 2:41:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer; All

a lot of folks are done with RINOs

if all they do is talk to one other about this, nothing will ever result from that.

imagine millions of emails and phone calls to the RNC telling them that real Americans are finished with their bullshit and will not vote for RINOs any more.

CALL OR WRITE THE RNC TODAY

http://www.gop.com/contact-us/

202-863-8500


3 posted on 06/23/2014 3:13:32 AM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax

I do something. I take every RNC request for money and add a note that says just what you indicate. The RNC never sees it. The bundlers they use are only looking for checks and money orders and they throw the rest of the stuff away except for the information on the suckers who send them anything.

I also respond the same on polls and calls from RNC type organizations. It’s hard to get to their reason when all they are looking for is cash. You can tell by their RINO politicians completely ignoring their constituents’ concerns.

Even when they are faced with the problem of conservatives and giving up on them, instead of addressing their concerns and fight them. They foolishly hope Hispanics would love them if we ONLY allow 20-50 million illegals. The only way to get to them is to not vote for them. Any of them.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 3:19:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: All

FURP


5 posted on 06/23/2014 3:33:32 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rand Paul is a Libertarian. One of the mainstays of the Libertarian basic beliefs is “borderless societies” and that means no borders.....period.

I had respect for Rand but he is proving that he is indeed, a raving liberal and is no longer on my “radar screen” for any public office.

It’s a shame for he had many good ideas but all it takes is one rotten potato to spoil the whole bag.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 4:11:11 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: kingattax
a lot of folks are done with RINOs.

I thank you for knowing how to spell "RINOs" (it's not "RINO's"). Almost everyone writes the plural of common and proper nouns by adding an apostrophe (which indicates possession) and then an "s". They should have been taught in grammar school that this is not proper English.

7 posted on 06/23/2014 4:13:07 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Libertarians are not now, nor ever will be, conservative.

They align with conservatives only in tax issues, but care not a wit about the borders, foreign policy, and disagree about abortion, marriage and most social issues.

Rand Paul is an admitted libertarian and like his father, doesn't believe in good and evil, believes all countries are the same, and if we leave them alone, all will be well.

Neither Rand nor Ron Paul can explain 9/11/01 without blaming America for interfering in the middle east.

Piss on both of them.

8 posted on 06/23/2014 4:16:19 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: DH

“Rand Paul is a Libertarian. One of the mainstays of the Libertarian basic beliefs is “borderless societies” and that means no borders.....period.”

LIES! Two of them in one sentence.

1. Rand Paul is a Conservative Republican.

2. Rand Paul is for provably securing the border FIRST.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 4:26:42 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

June 2014. When Rand Paul finally became exposed as a Libertarian, not a conservative with libertarian leanings. His take on the Middle East and foreign policy in general is frightening. He’s to the left of Obama. This guy is dead go me as far as being a spox for anything conservative.


10 posted on 06/23/2014 4:33:14 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

G.O.P. yesterday => GAVE. OBAMA. POWER

G.O.P. today ... => GIVE. OBAMA. POWER


11 posted on 06/23/2014 4:45:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: USS Alaska

“Rand Paul is an admitted libertarian “

LIES!

Rand Paul is an admitted Conservative Republican.

Rand Paul on Meet The Press, yesterday.

” I am about as conservative as they come, maybe a little libertarian too”.

a “LITTLE” libertarian. This is a message to placate the Libertarians who overwhelmingly supported His dad’s presidential aspirations. I’m sure he wants to tap into their support and ground game. He’d be a fool not to.

It’s politics not bean bag. Like his support for McConnell.
McConnell is the Republican LEADER, (his boss in the Senate). McConnell is his fellow Senator from his own state of Tennessee. And you want Rand Paul to commit political suicide for your utopian ideals?


12 posted on 06/23/2014 4:46:43 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: DH

You are wrong. Libertarians believe in open borders if there is no welfare state. The US welfare state is what keeps libertarians from opening up the border like they want to.


13 posted on 06/23/2014 4:51:22 AM PDT by impimp
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

The crisis with juveniles at the border is Fast-n-Furious Phase 2.0. This was planned, this is the Hegelian dialectic at work.

Thesis: American gun, or American gun culture as they would say, are remaking havoc south of the border. Enter the Fast-n-Furious construct.

Antithesis: Juveniles (aint they cute) are crossing the border to escape violence fueled by American guns.

Resolution: We must curb gun rights and open the border (”Immagration Reform”).

If Obama has rout a few thousand deaths with Fast-n-Furious that pales in comparison to the greater good.


14 posted on 06/23/2014 4:55:43 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: faucetman

Rand Paul is a hidden Liberaltarian.

Cats out of the bag now.

Amnesty.

Fine with Iran nukes.

Blames Bush vs. Obama for losing Iraq to terrorists.

Blames US for 9 11 attacks.

Liberaltarian. Period.


15 posted on 06/23/2014 5:01:30 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Gaffer

Agree I’ve done same thing note after note…..no more $$$$$ from me till borders closed. R. Paul is another Rubio…..a liar & Rino


16 posted on 06/23/2014 5:04:53 AM PDT by ducks1944 (GOD Bless the USA .)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rand isn’t showing much judgement by blaming the current situation in Iraq on Bush/Cheney.


17 posted on 06/23/2014 5:29:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Rand Paul, a RINO?

"I'm shocked I tell you, shocked" /s

18 posted on 06/23/2014 5:40:29 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rand seems to be all over the place on some issues. This weekend he was on foreign policy but his messages were muddled and contradictory and confused.

Rand is trying to be all things to all people and is, thus, showing that he does not stand for much.

He is becoming his own worst enemy by addressing too many issues at too many venues with inconsistent messages. Those soundbites/videos/audios will come back to haunt him in future presidential runs.

What do you really stand for, Senator?


19 posted on 06/23/2014 5:55:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: faucetman
2. Rand Paul is for provably securing the border FIRST.

Nearly every politician advocates that old canard. So, why are they not doing it now? There are plenty of EXISTING laws on the books that would secure the border. We don't need new laws for that.

Heck, even McAmnestyCarthy in the House was saying the same 'secure the border' in the weekend news commentary programs.
20 posted on 06/23/2014 6:00:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: impimp

You are wrong. Libertarians believe in open borders if there is no welfare state.....


Where the heck in their platform plank did you find that statement?

Back in the 80’s I was a staunch Libertarian.....until I found out that the most important goal of their organization was the legalization of ALL drugs....period.

There was NOTHING in writing to state what would happen to those who robbed, stole, embezzled, and did every other vile thing to get the money to buy these drugs if they were too “bummed out” to make an honest living to pay for them and to work for a living just like the law abiding people who paid taxes so they could eat and sleep in some type of shelter.

I was very active in the Texas organization but eventually fell out that their philosophy was:

1. Legalize all drugs.
2. Then...once that was done, write and promulgate laws to control the crimes committed by those who flaunted the laws of the people.

Notice #1 came before #2. Common sense dictated that #2 should come before #1.

The same thing is happening in the 2014 INVASION of the United States now.

If people want to use dope, mind-altering drugs, and general drugs of any type or kind....that’s ok with me......ONLY if they purchase these with their own EARNED money and not with mine or my stolen property.

Furthermore, the laws should absolutely prevent one penny of a citizen’s income to be garnered by the government to pay for their folly and inability to live like the rest of us.

I was so disgusted with the Libertarian party that I left it in 1995.

This little history lesson was to inform you that I know what is in the planks of their platform and the words “Libertarians believe in open borders if there is no welfare state.....” are not in there.


21 posted on 06/23/2014 6:11:13 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH
If people want to use dope, mind-altering drugs, and general drugs of any type or kind....that’s ok with me......ONLY if they purchase these with their own EARNED money and not with mine or my stolen property.

Furthermore, the laws should absolutely prevent one penny of a citizen’s income to be garnered by the government to pay for their folly and inability to live like the rest of us.

I was so disgusted with the Libertarian party that I left it in 1995.

So it's your understanding that libertarians want to repeal the existing laws against stealing, and that they support welfare for those who have incapacitated themselves with drugs?

22 posted on 06/23/2014 6:43:54 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: impimp

Libertarians want open borders which would make conservative economics impossible, and they know that.

Which do you think they will get first, open borders, or the end of welfare and social programs in America?

Anytime the libertarians want to abandon their leftism and put it off until they can get the economic issues done, then we can start taking them seriously, but that isn’t the way it works is it?


23 posted on 06/23/2014 7:55:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: impimp

Agreed!


24 posted on 06/23/2014 7:58:03 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: DH

I posted 23 before I read your post.

With libertarians it is “give us drugs, open borders, abortion and gay marriage today, and we will gladly pay you the end of welfare and social programs on Tuesday.”


25 posted on 06/23/2014 7:58:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I’m unhappy with Rand Pauls’s stance on immigration and probably to the point that I no longer support his possible presidential campaign. He is good on other subjects and I feel he is more valuable in the US Senate fighting to roll back the Police State.


26 posted on 06/23/2014 8:18:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: faucetman
2. Rand Paul is for provably securing the border FIRST.

If imagine Rand Paul President in 2017 I am 100% certain of two things -- he will absolutely ignore securing the border and second, he will push to grant 100% amnesty to all illegal scum in this dying Republic.

I have studied the totality of his comments on "Immigration."

Paul is devious because he is trying harder and harder to act "tough" on the border.

Ron Paul is a faux Conservative.

27 posted on 06/23/2014 10:05:43 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate ourselves back to Liberty)
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To: faucetman
It’s politics not bean bag. Like his support for McConnell.

McConnell is the Republican LEADER, (his boss in the Senate). McConnell is his fellow Senator from his own state of Tennessee. And you want Rand Paul to commit political suicide for your utopian ideals?

I stand firmly against Rand Paul and his brand of loony liberaltarianism. Yet, even I know Rand Paul is from Kentucky, as is Mitch McConnell, not Tennessee.

Perhaps you have RP confused with Lamar Alexander (R-TN)? I can see how that would be an easy mistake to make given Alexander's continued defense of his vote for the Gang of Eight amnesty plan.


28 posted on 06/23/2014 1:09:36 PM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

29 posted on 06/24/2014 3:37:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: faucetman
And you want Rand Paul to commit political suicide for your utopian ideals?

Eliminate the adjective "political" and I'm OK with the rest of the sentence.

30 posted on 06/24/2014 4:08:43 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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