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The shameless, unprincipled Republican Establishment may have lost by winning in Mississippi
United Liberty ^ | 6-28-2014 | Matthew Hurtt

Posted on 06/29/2014 2:44:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Edited on 06/29/2014 11:51:45 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Conservative Republicans are still smarting from last Tuesday’s defeat in Mississippi. Evidence seems to be mounting that pro-Thad Cochran allies used rather unsavory tactics to draw out traditionally-Democratic voters to swing the election in Cochran’s favor.

But the focus of this post isn’t really those tactics or the legality of non-Republican voters casting ballots in open primaries. Instead, Republicans — both moderate Establishment-types and grassroots conservaitves — should seriously consider the fallout from Cochran’s victory — because of those tactics. They could have broad implications against incumbents, particularly when the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) gets involved in the race.


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1 posted on 06/29/2014 2:44:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thad won the battle but lost the war


2 posted on 06/29/2014 2:48:28 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: smoothsailing

Very true. Just because I won’t vote for a Democrat doesn’t mean that I will vote for a Republican. I will vote straight ticket down-ballot, but at the Federal level, I will not vote for any incumbent who has betrayed our national platform. If that gives some seats to Democrats, so be it. . . maybe America just needs a little more pain before they are ready to re-engage in self-government.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 2:49:10 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: smoothsailing

That’s okay.
Thad can console himself with his farmyard friends.


4 posted on 06/29/2014 2:52:32 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: smoothsailing

I won’t help the slimeballs one bit. They’re not much different than Democrats.


5 posted on 06/29/2014 2:53:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: gspurlock

They were talking about this on the Chris Wallace show on FOX today. The panel included Rove, Hume and a couple of others. Of course the horrendous dirty tactics used were not mentioned. They just talked about how amazing it was that more came out on the primary run off than came out the first time-again no mention that it was black democrats or why it happened. Disgusting.


6 posted on 06/29/2014 2:54:11 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: smoothsailing

Karl Rove stepped in it this morning when he inadvertently acknowledge the fraud by saying that more people showed up for the runoff than for the regular election — ya think Karl???


7 posted on 06/29/2014 2:54:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: smoothsailing

Yes...because even more liberal elements of the GOP are starting to smell the rat


8 posted on 06/29/2014 2:59:30 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Hollywood...Washington DC for pretty people)
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To: Uncle Chip

I just sent an email to Chris Wallace expressing my disgust with them failing to mention the hideous tactics used by the Republicans against McDaniel and how Rove failed to mention that those voters were democrats brought out by racist tactics used by the likes of him. Disgusting. Email Wallace and express your opinion of his little panel.


9 posted on 06/29/2014 3:03:45 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: FatherofFive

Agreed.


10 posted on 06/29/2014 3:04:05 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Uncle Chip

OOPS! B^)


11 posted on 06/29/2014 3:05:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: gspurlock
If that gives some seats to Democrats, so be it. . . maybe America just needs a little more pain before they are ready to re-engage in self-government.

They have lots of pain in places like Argentina and Venezuela. But it has not caused re-engagement in self-government. Rather, it has only served to expand the dependent classes, making it impossible for conservatives to to regain control via the democratic process.

Any Republican is superior to any Democrat, if only because being in the majority gives control over the parliamentary process, allowing the true conservatives greater ability to be effective.

12 posted on 06/29/2014 3:07:58 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: smoothsailing
The National Republican Senatorial Committee should stay OUT of any primary race.

Their job is to help elect Republicans to the Senate not select who the Republican candidate will be.

13 posted on 06/29/2014 3:08:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: smoothsailing

How true. They were exposed. Interesting for sure.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 3:11:01 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: smoothsailing

The GOPe is dead.


15 posted on 06/29/2014 3:16:14 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: fortheDeclaration; FatherofFive

Does Thad even know what happened? His puppeteers won the battle but lost the war, but it doesn’t affect them personally in the short term, so they may not care.


16 posted on 06/29/2014 3:18:03 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Agreed, the NRSC today is nothing but an incumbent protection racket. It deserves no support.


17 posted on 06/29/2014 3:18:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: cynwoody

“Any Republican is superior to any Democrat, if only because being in the majority gives control over the parliamentary process, allowing the true conservatives greater ability to be effective.”

Ya don’t say....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/03/Boehner-GOP-leaders-purge-conservatives-from-powerful-House-committees


18 posted on 06/29/2014 3:18:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: cynwoody
Any Republican is superior to any Democrat

That's pure bovine excrement.

Today, the GOP Ruling Class IS FAR WORSE THAN any Democrat MarxoFascist.

All traitors are.

The GOP can go to hell. They were instrumental in our demise as a nation. Judenrats for the MarxoFascists.

There is no stopping what is coming by the ballot box or via civil means. Period. The GOP Ruling Class just proved to us all that the electoral process is as corrupted and perverted as the rest of the cesspool that is the Federal Beast.

We will have to start over from scratch - if even the Lord will permit that which at this point I am doubtful about.

19 posted on 06/29/2014 3:22:49 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: smoothsailing

The two faces above would not look out of place standing next to Stalin at the May parades in Moscow.


20 posted on 06/29/2014 3:29:22 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: smoothsailing

Same crap since they stole the nomination from Taft for Dewey.


21 posted on 06/29/2014 3:29:44 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: cynwoody

No more.

My vote has to be earned. The GOPe has so much as said that they don’t need it, don’t want it.

So be it.


22 posted on 06/29/2014 3:31:15 PM PDT by Vindication
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To: smoothsailing

republican party has lost me for the forseeable future over this


23 posted on 06/29/2014 3:36:39 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: cynwoody
Any Republican is superior to any Democrat, if only because being in the majority gives control over the parliamentary process, allowing the true conservatives greater ability to be effective.

Shouldn't you have used a sarcasm tag? The friggin' Republican party just screwed conservatives over big time, and you want another whack? Geez!

24 posted on 06/29/2014 3:46:55 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: INVAR
We will have to start over from scratch - if even the Lord will permit that which at this point I am doubtful about.

If you let the process of decay proceed for too long a time, you reach a point where the growing underclass controls the democratic process, and they vote for the gimmee party, not understanding that it is the source of their poverty. At that point, the only remedy is a military coup.

25 posted on 06/29/2014 3:48:45 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Black Agnes

Ya don’t say....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/03/Boehner-GOP-leaders-purge-conservatives-from-powerful-House-committees

Consider how much less power those Tea Party reps would have if Pelosi were still Speaker.

Consider how much more effective Ted Cruz could be if Dingy Harry were not Majority Leader.

26 posted on 06/29/2014 3:52:15 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mplsconservative

Last night I has a Freeper spouting the Dem talking point about todays GOP being more conservative than the Reagan era GOP.

We are thoroughly infiltrated with GOP operatives, either paid or of the useful idiot variety, and it will get worse as the tide turns against the party.


27 posted on 06/29/2014 3:52:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: mplsconservative
The friggin' Republican party just screwed conservatives over big time, and you want another whack? Geez!

True. And so you propose strengthening the 'Rat Party as the superior alternative?

The only reasonable goal is (1) to take both houses of Congress and (2) then fight it out with the GOP-e after the election.

28 posted on 06/29/2014 4:02:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

“Any Republican is superior to any Democrat, if only because being in the majority gives control over the parliamentary process, allowing the true conservatives greater ability to be effective.

I’m going to disagree with that. At the point where the GOPe will stoop to levels seen in MS, they need to be taught a lesson. And yes, some of those lessons may cause Dems to accede to office/power. It is intolerable to have traitors in our midst. That is the only thing that will prevent repeat performances of MS.

It would be worth it to discredit Rove at al once and for all....not that I could guarantee that outcome any better than you [generic you] could guarantee that electing even a flaming dirtbag Republican would be better than electing any Democrat.

The way the MS election was snaked is intolerable and must not recede into the rear view mirror of complacency. That’s my bottom line.


29 posted on 06/29/2014 4:03:48 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Uncle Chip

Rove said the win was “amazing”.


30 posted on 06/29/2014 4:04:34 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Norm Lenhart
Last night I has a Freeper spouting the Dem talking point about todays GOP being more conservative than the Reagan era GOP.

Reagan always saw the GOP-e as a bunch of wimps. “We had rabbits when we needed tigers," he wrote in his diary. "With some of our friends, we don't need enemies. I’m afraid I blew my top at one point. It seemed to me they [GOP Establishment congressmen and senators] are willing to let the Dems run with the ball because they don’t think we can stop them. I told them before we do that, it’s time for us to agree on our position & then let me take it to the people (TV) & smoke them out. The way we’re going we’re not exerting any leadership."

31 posted on 06/29/2014 4:10:35 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

And those wimps were STILL more conservative than the open Democrat collaborators we have today.

the DEMs of Tip O’Neil were more conservative than the majority of GOP today.


32 posted on 06/29/2014 4:13:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: cynwoody

Get a grip. Do you not understand that there is NO difference anymore?

The travesty in Mississippi proves it. GOPe are ‘Rats. Same party and I’m disgusted with them both.


33 posted on 06/29/2014 4:21:59 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: dandiegirl
They were talking about this on the Chris Wallace show on FOX today. The panel included Rove, Hume and a couple of others. Of course the horrendous dirty tactics used were not mentioned. They just talked about how amazing it was that more came out on the primary run off than came out the first time-again no mention that it was black democrats or why it happened. DISGUSTING.

A little edit of your very accurate post.

34 posted on 06/29/2014 4:27:19 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: dandiegirl; smoothsailing
My Email to Megyn Kelly at Fox News:
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Here is a post that showed up on Freerepublic.com today. It is a complaint about Fox News, particularly the Chris Wallace Sunday Show and the Fox News coverage of the Mississippi election. Here it is:

They were talking about this on the Chris Wallace show on FOX today. The panel included Rove, Hume and a couple of others. Of course the horrendous dirty tactics used were not mentioned. They just talked about how amazing it was that more came out on the primary run off than came out the first time-again no mention that it was black democrats or why it happened. Disgusting.

You probably have no idea how bad this makes Karl Rove, Brit Hume and Chris Wallace look. The trust is gone. They look like shills for Haley Barbour. And with good reason. They are shills for Hayley Barbour whose obvious goal is to name the next Senator from Mississippi when Cochran retires in a year or two. One would think this would be NEWS. Apparently not on Fox.

I'm sending you this in hopes that someone on your staff will get the message and talk you into letting people know how the GOP played dirty Democrat politics to win the election, actually steal the election, for Thad Cochran.

If Fox News is going to have any credibility at all, and they lost a ton of it this Sunday, they had better turn you lose to cover this story the way it should covered.

Remember Mississippi!
We will all be thinking about Mississippi this November

35 posted on 06/29/2014 4:31:31 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint
They look like shills for Haley Barbour

They are not shills for Barbour, they are shills for the GOP-E no matter what state it is in.

36 posted on 06/29/2014 4:33:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
They are not shills for Barbour, they are shills for the GOP-E no matter what state it is in.

True enough. But in this case the major beneficiary was Barbour. He financed it and he will reap the rewards when he names the next Senator from Mississippi. And this trio was covering for him. It was disgusting.

37 posted on 06/29/2014 4:36:07 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: cynwoody

“If you let the process of decay proceed for too long a time, you reach a point where the growing underclass controls the democratic process...”

We’ve already reached “the point”. We’re rapidly moving past it. The “do over from scratch” that the earlier poster talked about isn’t something conservatives will initiate. It’s coming regardless, because the current economic/political setup is unsustainable.


38 posted on 06/29/2014 4:36:13 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: cynwoody

“Any Republican is superior to any Democrat, if only because being in the majority gives control over the parliamentary process, allowing the true conservatives greater ability to be effective. “

Ahhh... a true believer.

I sympathize, since I used to be one also.

I gently tell you that you are lying to yourself. We have exactly the government both side want. To the degree they get you to believe that line of bull is the degree that you are irrelevant and simply a tool of the Plantation.


39 posted on 06/29/2014 4:39:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: cynwoody

Really?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/03/10/mcconnell-tea-party-candidates-will-get-crushed-everywhere-in-gop-primaries-n1806523


40 posted on 06/29/2014 4:53:42 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: smoothsailing

The GOP lost the Senate last week.


41 posted on 06/29/2014 4:54:38 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: dandiegirl

I just sent an email to Chris Wallace expressing my disgust with them failing to mention the hideous tactics used by the Republicans against McDaniel and how Rove failed to mention that those voters were democrats brought out by racist tactics used by the likes of him. Disgusting. Email Wallace and express your opinion of his little panel.


So did I.


42 posted on 06/29/2014 5:09:35 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: dandiegirl

What is the email address?
Just love to send Wallace a little tip on how pathetic todays so called show was.


43 posted on 06/29/2014 5:11:11 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: ought-six

The GOP lost the Senate last week.
++++++++
I’m hoping for a pickup of 7 Dem seats and a loss of one in Mississippi.


44 posted on 06/29/2014 5:11:14 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: cynwoody
If you let the process of decay proceed for too long a time, you reach a point where the growing underclass controls the democratic process, and they vote for the gimmee party, not understanding that it is the source of their poverty. At that point, the only remedy is a military coup.

There are now two gimme parties, one for the underclass and the other for the corporatists; both seek power to seize tax money as welfare for their favored supporters. The GOPe has sold its soul for crony capitalism, and just broke every rule to keep Sugar Daddy Thad Cochran in position to keep the government money pouring in for Mississippi's defense contractors.

The Republican establishment has libeled Mississippi conservatives and their candidate as racists, appealing to scared black Democrats overrule Republican voters and to choose the GOP nominee. This legitimization of false Democrat accusations is beyond the pale and must not be rewarded at any price. Mark this: if we will not clean our own house, we are not fit to clean up this country.

45 posted on 06/29/2014 5:11:41 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: smoothsailing
Said one staffer: The Cochran thing is bad enough, but it’s not even the worst example. Look at Ben Sasse in Nebraska. He was one of three candidates who would have been fine in that race, all would win the general election and all would have been better votes than the senator they’d replace.

WHAT A CROCK

None of the three candidates are qualified to shine the shoes of the senator they are replacing.

from wiki:

On May 7, 1991, he was elected the 47th Mayor of Lincoln, defeating incumbent Mayor Bill Harris, with 54% of the vote.[8] He took office as Mayor on December 3, 1991. In 1995, Johanns won reelection with no opposition,

... Governor of Nebraska

On November 3, 1998, Johanns and his running mate David I. Maurstad, defeated Hoppner and his running mate Pam Bataillon in the general election, by a margin of 54% to 46%.[28][29]

...

He won reelection in 2002 by a landslide, defeating Democrat Stormy Dean by a margin of 69% to 27%.

Johanns was known for his strong stance on vetoing many bills, in 1999 Johanns vetoed 26 bills in only five days, more than any other Governor in Nebraska history.[38] In 2003 Johanns vetoed the entire $5.4 billion two-year Nebraska state budget. He said that he "could not accept a budget that raised taxes to grow government at a time when the state must cut spending," and called for a nearly 10% cut in every state government program.[39][40] Johanns vetoed legislation increasing the pay of members of the Nebraska Legislature, though the veto was overridden by the legislature; he also vetoed legislation authorizing teacher salary increases

46 posted on 06/29/2014 5:24:37 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: InterceptPoint; All
You probably have no idea how bad this makes Karl Rove, Brit Hume and Chris Wallace look. The trust is gone.

ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN spout the Dem line

In exactly the same fashion, FOX spouts the liberal Establishment GOP line.

Conservatism goes ignored, though it keeps on happening across America even when all the alphabet networks pretend it didn't.

It's a force of nature. Sooner or later, what really happened is going to trump what the alphabet networks pretend happened.

Reality is going to hit the fan sooner or later.

47 posted on 06/29/2014 5:25:32 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: cynwoody

Is that you Karl?


48 posted on 06/29/2014 5:25:51 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: cynwoody
If you let the process of decay proceed for too long a time, you reach a point where the growing underclass controls the democratic process, and they vote for the gimmee party, not understanding that it is the source of their poverty. At that point, the only remedy is a military coup.

Do you really have no clue what time it actually is? We are already FAAAAR past that point you describe.

Too may Americans continue to reveal that they have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias.

There IS NO REMEDY TO STOP WHERE WE ARE GOING VIA CIVIL MEANS.

History is VERY VERY clear on this point and how and why Americans somehow think we are immune to the consequences we have sown for ourselves and allowed to happen is beyond my capacity to fathom.

The culture has already decayed. The spiritual morality of the nation at large is become rotten. The political class has become corrupt and evil. The government has declared it is above the law and will decree what law will now be.

The only remedy at this point, is national Repentance, followed by a horrifying and bloody struggle to undo what we have done to ourselves. And God may not grant to us a restoration of the Gift of Liberty since we threw it away turned from Him in favor of making government god.

49 posted on 06/29/2014 6:03:47 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: smoothsailing

If I lived in Mississippi I would not vote for Cochrane. I would write in McDaniel or vote for the rat.

Wonder if ol’ Thad even knows what’s going on - he seems a bit, er, distracted lately.


50 posted on 06/29/2014 7:27:40 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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