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Obama finally gets off golf course, urges Israel not to retaliate, forgets how to say 'Hamas' and
Israel Matzav ^ | 6/30/14 | Carl in Jeruslaem

Posted on 06/30/2014 7:36:37 PM PDT by Nachum

President Hussein Obama has left the golf course long enough to urge Israel not to retaliate against the 'Palestinians' for the murder of Eyal Yifrach, Gil-Ad Shaer, and Naftali Frenkel '– who held Israeli and American citizenship.' (I wonder whether Jen Psaki gave him the name). This is from the first link.

US President Barack Obama expressed his condolences Monday evening to the three bereaved families: "On behalf of the American people I extend my deepest and heartfelt condolences to the families of Eyal Yifrach, Gil-Ad Shaer, and Naftali Frenkel – who held Israeli and American citizenship. As a father, I cannot imagine the indescribable pain that the parents of these teenage boys are experiencing."

He added: "The United States condemns in the strongest possible terms this senseless act of terror against innocent youth. I also urge all parties to refrain from steps that could further destabilize the situation. As the Israeli people deal with this tragedy, they have the full support and friendship of the United States."

Who committed 'this senseless act of terror' Mr. President? Why aren't you condemning Hamas for committing it? Why aren't you condemning the 'Palestinian Authority' for celebrating it, thereby encouraging the next such act? Why did your State Department earlier today commend Abu Bluff for his 'help'? Why don't you even apologize for the fact that the two prime suspects were both released from Israeli prisons as part of the terrorists for Gilad trade?

Oh wait a minute. That last question ought to be put to Mr. Netanyahu. But you should answer the rest of them Mr. President.


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: golf; hamas; israel; obama
Obama finally gets off golf course, urges Israel not to retaliate, forgets how to say 'Hamas' and 'Palestinians'
1 posted on 06/30/2014 7:36:37 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Hoodat

ping


2 posted on 06/30/2014 7:36:56 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum
Obama finally gets off golf course

*smirk*

3 posted on 06/30/2014 7:40:06 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier (I dream of country without liberals.)
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To: Nachum

Heaven forbid those mean Israelis hurt Obama’s buddies.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 7:40:10 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (The more helpless the victim, the more hideous the assault.)
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To: Nachum

If I had three white yid boyz, they would look a lot like those teens. /s


5 posted on 06/30/2014 7:41:03 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Nachum

It must take a mighty effort for Netenyahu to refrain from telling Obama to shove it up his skinny kenyan arse.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 7:41:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Nachum

Is Hamas Sunni or Shia?


7 posted on 06/30/2014 7:41:48 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Nachum

What was the bin Laden raid or all the drone strikes? Maybe ineffectual, but definitely retaliatory in intent.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 7:44:30 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Nachum

Funny how the victim is urged to show restraint.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:00 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: skeeter

What is the proper Hebrew phrase for “Pound sand, ya flaming moron!”


10 posted on 06/30/2014 7:46:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: gusopol3
What was the bin Laden raid...

A distration from the release of his fake birth certificate.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 7:47:44 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Nachum
Hamas thugs kill an American citizen? Let's light 'em up!

Oh wait, Barky Obama is in charge.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 7:47:51 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Army Air Corps
Funny how the victim is urged to show restraint.

Muslims, ghetto trash, commies etc. all the enemies of free westerners are counting on it.

13 posted on 06/30/2014 7:48:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: DBrow

Hamas is a Sunni group, but they were supported by Shia Iran, until they had a falling out a while back. But, Israel was involved in helping Hamas when it first formed, as an offset to Fatah (the Palestinian Authority). Of course Israel is not helping them now ... :-) ...


14 posted on 06/30/2014 7:48:40 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 867V309

The people behind the scenes in tracking down Osama bin Ladin didn’t do their jobs and finally track him down because of that.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 7:51:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Army Air Corps

Funny also how the perpetrators were already in prison and had been released as part of the ‘peace’ process.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 7:52:17 PM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Nachum

He als forgets how to say Muslim ad Islam when talking about the murderers.


17 posted on 06/30/2014 7:56:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Nachum

By their fruits....


18 posted on 06/30/2014 7:57:29 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: RightGeek

The aircraft in the top graphic appear to be Tu-95s.


19 posted on 06/30/2014 7:57:43 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 867V309

That’s true too.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 7:59:16 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 867V309

I think we have a winner


21 posted on 06/30/2014 8:00:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Hoodat

They weren’t released as part of the peace process.

The information is sketchy right now, but I believe they were released in an EXCHANGE when Israel agreed to release ONE THOUSAND TERRORISTS to get ONE ISRAELI SOLDIER in exchange!


22 posted on 06/30/2014 8:00:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Nachum

Wasn’t an AMERICAN one of the three killed?

Have yet to hear that mentioned.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 8:01:51 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Here are their names and ages ... Naftali Fraenkel, 16, Gil-ad Shaar, 16, and Eyal Yifrach, 19.

I think they were settlers, but I’m not sure. They don’t appear to be American.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 8:07:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
The people behind the scenes in tracking down Osama bin Ladin didn’t do their jobs and finally track him down because of that.

That doesn't mean obammy didn't use them for his own purpose.


25 posted on 06/30/2014 8:11:52 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Nachum

“... urge Israel not to retaliate against the ‘Palestinians’ ...”

Well... that ship already sailed. IDF blew up the houses of two of the kidnappers.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 8:13:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 867V309

I read that the officials did an “end run” around Obama in order to get the operation under way, because Obama was stalling and stalling. SO ... they started it and only told him after they were committed ... LOL ...

Obama was stuck with it, at that point ... :-) ...


27 posted on 06/30/2014 8:18:08 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Frenkel was an American citizen. The young men were students at a religious school. I don’t believe any of them were permanent residents there.


28 posted on 06/30/2014 8:18:44 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Nachum

Obama, go back to the golf course. No matter how badly you play golf, anything you do on the golf course is better than the results of you opening your mouth to talk about anything political or values-oriented. Stick to golf.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 8:19:48 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Star Traveler
Obama was stuck with it, at that point ... :-) ...

You believe this went forward without approval from the highest level? I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...


30 posted on 06/30/2014 8:22:32 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Army Air Corps
Funny how the victim is urged to show restraint.

Yes

31 posted on 06/30/2014 8:22:48 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Nachum

The subhumans are cruising for a bruising
There needs to be a final solution to the muhammadan problem
Maybe an Ebola type bug that targets followers of the satanic cult.
islam is an existential threat.
Hard work ahead


32 posted on 06/30/2014 8:23:06 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: UCANSEE2

Those are two different groups. Israel actually does not retaliate against Palestinian civilians anyway. You don’t have to tell Israel that, because they NEVER do that.

Israel does retaliate against terrorist operatives and the terrorist organizations, but they do it very very carefully so as to not cause collateral damage with Palestinian civilians. Israel is very successful in that.

Those homes destroyed were of the TERRORIST OPERATIVES and not just some Palestinian civilians in an indiscriminate manner. These were DIRECTLY RELATED to the terrorist operatives!


33 posted on 06/30/2014 8:24:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: skeeter
It must take a mighty effort for Netenyahu to refrain from telling Obama to shove it up his skinny kenyan arse.

I like Netenyahu more than any other world leader, and especially our RAT bastard commie socialist Nazi muslim pig 0dumb0! But I really do wish that Netenyahu would take his self restaints off and rip 0dumb0 a new one, simply by reciting the muslim atrocities that 0dumb0 has enabled & encouraged & financially supported in his muslim brotherhood band of terrorist brothers and the Gaza strip.

And then for good measure, Netenyahu needs to just tell 0dumb0 to STFU!

34 posted on 06/30/2014 8:25:09 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: 867V309

Yep, I posted on that and it definitely was an end run around Obama. They were going to lose Osama bin Ladin if the delays continued and there were a bunch of other people who DEFINITELY wanted to get him!


35 posted on 06/30/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Army Air Corps

‘Gai khaken affenyam’ (go s*** in the ocean)?


36 posted on 06/30/2014 8:30:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Star Traveler
Yep, I posted on that and it definitely was an end run around Obama. They were going to lose Osama bin Ladin if the delays continued and there were a bunch of other people who DEFINITELY wanted to get him!

Show me with a credible link, please.


37 posted on 06/30/2014 8:30:33 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: 867V309

I won’t go looking it up now, but I will when I can get to my other computer, in about a day or two.


38 posted on 06/30/2014 8:34:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

OK, I appreciate it.


39 posted on 06/30/2014 9:09:10 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Star Traveler
I think they were settlers, but I’m not sure. They don’t appear to be American.

From the first sentence of the excerpt above:

'– who held Israeli and American citizenship.'

Regards,

40 posted on 06/30/2014 9:24:17 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Star Traveler

Of course, you are correct.

I went back and read my comment, and I can see my erroneous implication.


41 posted on 06/30/2014 10:07:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Star Traveler

P.S.

I forgot something.

Thank you for providing the detailed and proper explanation.


42 posted on 06/30/2014 10:09:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Thanks ... and I’m not really trying to be nit-picky on this stuff ... it’s just that Israel is falsely accused of doing war crimes, and with many people actually urging Israel to commit war crimes - we all need to defend Israel to the utmost, because they go so far out of their way to “do the right thing”.

I think Israel is a shining example of doing the right thing.


43 posted on 06/30/2014 10:18:08 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Nachum

nobody listens to (and certainly nobody trusts) him anymore
(all politics aside, this means nobody can rely on America for anything important for the next couple of years)

the world is in for more and more deep doo doo as he pushes things further down the sewer all around the world


44 posted on 06/30/2014 10:54:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: DBrow

Here’s some background on how Israel,was involved in the creation of Hamas, starting with an approved “precursor organization” to Hamas. Hamas would not be there now of Israel had acted differently. ALSO, the election of Hamas for the government of Gaza caught both Israel and the USA by complete surprise. It was “all over” before they could do a thing about it!

Here’s that article, from the Wall Street Journal ...

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas

Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with “Yassins,” primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric.

Israel’s experience echoes that of the U.S., which, during the Cold War, looked to Islamists as a useful ally against communism. Anti-Soviet forces backed by America after Moscow’s 1979 invasion of Afghanistan later mutated into al Qaeda.

At stake is the future of what used to be the British Mandate of Palestine, the biblical lands now comprising Israel and the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza. Since 1948, when the state of Israel was established, Israelis and Palestinians have each asserted claims over the same territory.

The Palestinian cause was for decades led by the PLO, which Israel regarded as a terrorist outfit and sought to crush until the 1990s, when the PLO dropped its vow to destroy the Jewish state. The PLO’s Palestinian rival, Hamas, led by Islamist militants, refused to recognize Israel and vowed to continue “resistance.” Hamas now controls Gaza, a crowded, impoverished sliver of land on the Mediterranean from which Israel pulled out troops and settlers in 2005.

When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and ‘80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.

See more at ...
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB123275572295011847


45 posted on 07/01/2014 1:19:12 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: DBrow

Another one ...

How Israel Helped Create Hamas
In the 1970s, Israel Saw Hamas’ Founders as Allies
http://middleeast.about.com/od/israelandpalestine/a/me090126.htm

It isn’t the kind of history Israelis like to talk about, or admit, but it’s also undeniable: Hamas is at least partly an intentional creation of Israel that dates back to the 1970s.

Back then the secular Palestine Liberation Organization was waging a terror campaign against Israel, which it vowed to destroy. There was no contact between Israel and the PLO, at least not officially. But Israel looked for Palestinians who didn’t align themselves with the PLO. It found them, in Gaza, in an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood—deeply pious Palestinians who were opposed to the PLO’s secular outlook, and who had adopted the Brotherhood’s motto: “Islam is the solution. The Koran is our constitution.”

Waltzing with Hamas

The Palestinian group that would begin calling itself Hamas in 1987 was founded by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a half-blind cleric partially paralyzed by a childhood sports accident. In the 1970s, Yassin’s interest was to turn Palestinians toward the Koran and to find their way through it, rather than through the PLO. Israel saw an opportunity to battle the PLO from within its own Palestinian ranks by openly supporting Yassin and his followers.

Israel’s assumption that Yassin could be a viable alternative to Yasser Arafat was the same sort of miscalculation the United States committed in Iran in the 1970s, when the CIA cultivated radical Islamist groups there should the regime of the Shah of Iran falter or fall. In 1979, the regime did fall. The CIA had misread the forces of political Islam in Iran. It had also misread its reach: Political Islam wasn’t a fad. It was the future.

Read the rest at the link ...


46 posted on 07/01/2014 1:25:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> Who committed ‘this senseless act of terror’ Mr. President? Why aren’t you condemning Hamas for committing it? Why aren’t you condemning the ‘Palestinian Authority’ for celebrating it, thereby encouraging the next such act? Why did your State Department earlier today commend Abu Bluff for his ‘help’? Why don’t you even apologize for the fact that the two prime suspects were both released from Israeli prisons as part of the terrorists for Gilad trade?


47 posted on 07/01/2014 4:44:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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