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The Atlantic: Doctors Most Qualified to Decide Who's Fit to Carry a Gun
Breitbart's Big Journalism ^ | June 30, 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 06/30/2014 10:03:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On June 30 The Atlantic ran a column focused on treating firearms as "a public health crisis" and allowing physicians "to determine who is fit to carry a gun."

According to The Atlantic, "all U.S. states allow citizens to carry certain concealed weapons in public for lawful purposes, with the exception of felons, persons proven to abuse controlled substances, individuals with a history of domestic violence, and those deemed mentally unstable or dangerous."

Citing the caveat regarding "those deemed mentally unstable or dangerous," The Atlantic explains that "some states may... require" a physician to sign off on a concealed carry permit application before one is issued. This points to an opportunity for physicians in all states on this matter, because "gun violence" is increasingly described as "a public health crisis."

After all, "the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, and U.S. Surgeon General nominee Vivek Murthy are calling gun violence a public health crisis," which provides a basis for viewing doctors "as a crucial link in the prevention chain."

A survey of physician attitudes on this subject printed in The New England Journal of Medicine shows that 59 percent of responding physicians do not believe they can "accurately assess whether [their] patient is physically capable of safely using a concealed weapon."(continued)

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; molonlabe Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: 2ndDivisionVet

More leftist insanity


2 posted on 06/30/2014 10:07:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Crimiinals don’t have to jump thru all these silly hoops.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 10:08:51 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...the right of the people to keep an bear arms shall not be infringed...

(no registration, no licenses, no taxes, no testing, no mandated classes, no nothing! that’s not a perfect system but there IS no perfect system and it IS probably about as good an approach as ever devised. More to the point, it is the American constitutional approach... so should be followed by “our” government...)


4 posted on 06/30/2014 10:08:55 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is this why the gov’t is saturating the medical field with people from...other than 1st world countries?
5 posted on 06/30/2014 10:09:03 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m quite sure the US constitution has that covered already but I wouldn’t be surprised that someone named Iulia didn’t understand that.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 10:09:35 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement. xtr)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Welcome to my world these last 31 years: I haven’t had a US born doctor at the VA since I started going there after leaving the service in 1983.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 10:11:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I work with medical doctors every day. Believe me when I say, there are plenty of US born doctors that would be quite happy to infringe on your right to keep and bear arms.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 10:14:11 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement. xtr)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leftists will go down any avenue in their quest to disarm political enemies.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 10:20:22 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: GeronL

When they start talking about commentators and reporters needing to have a certificate of approval from a doctor and a psychologist prior to practicing their First Amendment right wake me up.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 10:24:56 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know alot of doctors and some have insane personal lives so I don’t consider them to be the best at making such decisions.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 10:25:07 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: faithhopecharity
Isn't it amazing that the Leftist can find all sorts of rights NOT in the Constitution, but has difficulty understanding the plain English language of the amendments IN the Constitution. Particularly the religious exercising parts of the first. the entire right to bear arms of the second and all of the ninth and tenth amendments.
12 posted on 06/30/2014 10:28:38 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Get used to it.

By 2022, after the next Census, the Democrats will take permanent control of the White House, the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court.

And they will “Come and take them.”

Or try, anyway.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 10:29:28 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Secret Service: ‘Justice, duty, courage and honesty.’
If someone was able to slap a sticker under Barry’s window, mebbe they should add ‘vigilance’?
Can these guys be trusted with guns? They sound a little irresponsible ...
A Molon Labe sticker on 0’s ride. Doodness dwacious dwanny!


14 posted on 06/30/2014 10:37:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Jim from C-Town

it is amazing, and quite frustrating... that you can spend years studying the constitution and American history and political theory...
only to see that so many people treat all of the above (and thus, our raison d’etre as well as our most basic liberties)
as trash


15 posted on 06/30/2014 10:39:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: zeestephen
They can't take them if they cannot find them. I would not deny owning guns either.
The real war will start when door to door happens without warrants. Many will die and
a turning point in confiscation will take place. Brown shirts have families too.
16 posted on 06/30/2014 10:41:38 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: tumblindice

Hahahaha! The only real explanation that works is that one of them did it. I used to guard Vice President Bush when he visited the base where I worked and you couldn’t get within 100 yards of his vehicle unless you worked there like me or were in the guard detail, and things were much looser back then than they are now. The Secret Service, for the most part, are very conservative.


17 posted on 06/30/2014 10:41:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I worked in an office, my boss was a big Democrat, a real lefty, and had a stick up his butt about politics; in all other things a pretty good guy, if a little stiff. We fished together.
I stuck an NRA sticker on the back bumper of his Dodge Stratus,just enough so it could easily be peeled off. And I forgot about it.
A month later he found it and was livid! His buddies thought he’d gone ‘rogue’ I suppose. Heh. He’s dead now. Worried too much maybe.


18 posted on 06/30/2014 10:51:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
59 percent of responding physicians do not believe they can "accurately assess whether [their] patient is physically capable of safely using a concealed weapon."
That's actually terrifying, as it implies 41% of doctors are either ambivalent or supportive of gun-grabbing government Goosesteppers. Considering that we aren't even allowed to choose our doctor anymore, doctors will probably receive a lot of government moolah to promote Bolshevist gun-grabbing programs. Doctors who are more cautious on making mental health statements will be priced out in favor of those who support the Obamunist agenda.
19 posted on 06/30/2014 10:52:47 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dr.’s are whack jobs themselves....


20 posted on 06/30/2014 10:55:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s more, crime victims will sue the MD.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 11:07:58 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just ask the doc to explain boundary violations.

BTW - Did you notice that AP believes ... molon labe ... is Latin ...?

22 posted on 06/30/2014 11:08:05 PM PDT by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If I can find a Dr. who would give me a Marijuana prescription for medical pot, I could find a Dr. who would sign off on Jeffrey Dahmer for Guns.
23 posted on 06/30/2014 11:12:29 PM PDT by 20yearvet (they yell for more tests as long as its your money)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Note to The Atlantic: I don’t think so Skippy. Doctors are NOT qualified to decide who’s fit to carry a gun because most of them know absolutely nothing about them. That’s like me saying I can so brain surgery because I read a book and took a 50 question multiple choice test. Would you want me to do brain surgery on you? I thought not.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 11:36:10 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: kitchen

Latin, French - whatever. All them foreign words are Greek to me.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 12:07:10 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because they’ve done so well with the mentally disturbed, and all criminals follow the law. Yep.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 12:08:33 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was under the impression that “who’s fit to carry a gun” was already decided - December 15, 1791 - when the Bill of Rights was adopted.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 4:02:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will backfire bigtime.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 4:06:00 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Pollster1

“Doctor - he has a pulse!”

“That’s fine. Sir - you can pick up your choice of guns in the waiting area and we will add it to your checkup.”


29 posted on 07/01/2014 4:10:57 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems very Soviet like approach.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 6:41:06 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Molon Labe” is latin? Who knew?


31 posted on 07/01/2014 6:52:17 AM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good point. The secret service takes their job seriously, unlike most other federal employees. That is funny that a secret service person put that sticker on the beast. Now that the ice has been broken, what other stickers will be found on the obamamobile?


32 posted on 07/01/2014 6:58:32 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: Texas resident
The secret service takes their job seriously

I think that used to be true, but lately there have been a good number of incidents of them partying like rock stars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/03/26/secret-service-scandals-netherlands/6906965/

33 posted on 07/01/2014 7:03:09 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Yep. Forgot about that.
So maybe someone did get past the secret service.


34 posted on 07/01/2014 7:30:16 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: GeronL

Lets see I’m trying to find the part of the 2nd amendment that says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed as long as the doctor says its OK. :-)


35 posted on 07/01/2014 9:00:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

lol

doctors should be doing medicine, not deciding who has constitutional rights....


36 posted on 07/01/2014 9:06:43 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Guns don’t kill people, doctors do. :-)


37 posted on 07/01/2014 9:08:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love it.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 9:09:47 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RC one

Agreed. As it is, most of them think that they should be in charge of everything.


39 posted on 07/01/2014 9:11:27 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

statistically true.

Of course many of those deaths were going to happen without doctors being involved too.


40 posted on 07/01/2014 9:24:58 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: kitchen
Yes, and that idiot probably went to an Ivy League school.
41 posted on 07/01/2014 12:04:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: GeronL

Well I was just being snarky but for the most part doctors are not good for your health. If you go to a doctor they feel morally obliged to find something wrong with you and give you a drug for it.


42 posted on 07/01/2014 1:06:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Doctors vs. Gunowners

Doctors

Gunowners

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services

Statistics courtesy of FBI

The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000

The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000
(Yes, that’s right, 80 million)

Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year: 120,000

Accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups: 1,500

Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171

Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.000188

So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, ‘Guns don’t kill people, doctors do.’

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat to our safety.


43 posted on 07/01/2014 2:14:26 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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