Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Leaked:US think-tank plan on E.Ukraine suggests internment camps, executions, nationalizing property
Russia Today ^ | 7-4-2014 | RT

Posted on 07/04/2014 1:38:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf

A leaked memorandum from the RAND corporation think tank suggests that Kiev should engage in an all-out war in the eastern regions, including shutting down all communications, putting citizens in internment camps and killing all who resist.

The RAND Corporation is non-profit global think tank which offers research and analysis to the US armed forces.

In the shocking letter, which has been leaked by the media, the advice offers a step by step brutal guide in how to deal with the population in eastern Ukraine.

‘Military op’s advantages overweigh disadvantage’

In the first line the memorandum notes that the peace plan outlined by new president Poroshenko is likely to fail. However, it soothes, the political and material downsides of the operation will be “outweighed” by the gains.

The chilling letter then lists the advantages that a full scale military onslaught against the two breakaway eastern Ukrainian regions would have.

The pro-Russian political movement, claims the advice, would become decimated and the pro-Russian voters would get disorganized.

Instead of upholding the region’s coal supplies as a source of future employment, it says the decimation of the coal industry in the fighting would mean they would be quickly shut down, thereby relieving the Ukraine of burdensome subsidy costs.

Shutting down the Donbass industries would also mean a reduction in Russian gas consumption and the destruction of the local oligarch Rinat Akhmetov’s clan and his political and economic clout.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; UFO's
KEYWORDS: agitprop; civilwar; paultardation; putinsbuttboys; rand; russiatoday; sovietpropaganda; thinktank; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
(Title shortened to fit)

No way to know, currently, if this is true, but why does it sound exactly like something that would come from the Obamunists and ideolohues we currently have in charge of DC??

"Stage 1: Suspend Constitution, impose martial law" "Stage 2: Internment camps for male adults, any one resisting to be killed on the spot" "Stage 3: Property of convicted and displaced to be nationalized"

Hopey... Changey?

1 posted on 07/04/2014 1:38:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Not in my name.


2 posted on 07/04/2014 1:38:57 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

3 posted on 07/04/2014 1:39:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Maybe this “plan” was a precursor to a similar one they will recommend against the “Tea Party” in the US. Think-tankers are just another group of degenerates.


4 posted on 07/04/2014 1:41:56 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

yeah, I’m sure “Russia Today” wouldn’t engage in propaganda.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 1:43:32 PM PDT by EDINVA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hal ogen

My thought was that this sounds like a plan to use against US, as well.

Imagine how motivated the Dem Base would be if they were told they could take our stuff and property, if they win a civil war?


6 posted on 07/04/2014 1:43:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf
"Hey! I thought of that 40 years ago. Give me credit." Bill Ayers

Obama buddy Bill Ayers planned to murder 25 million Americans!

7 posted on 07/04/2014 1:45:30 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

In that instance, iuf they were dead they couldn’t seize anything.


8 posted on 07/04/2014 1:46:31 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

In that instance, if they were dead they couldn’t seize anything.


9 posted on 07/04/2014 1:46:40 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Beyond all the things chillingly wrong about this document, what’s also disturbing is it seems predicated on Russia sitting on her hands idly by while Ukraine implements this plan.

I suspect it wouldn’t get past “stage 1” before Russia would intervene.


10 posted on 07/04/2014 1:47:05 PM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: EDINVA

In the end, that doesn’t matter. This is getting widespread play in Russia, first appearing in “Isvestia”.

Even if it isn’t true, it is all too believable, given past history, current events, and some of the things that have been said by members of the Obama Administration in the past.


11 posted on 07/04/2014 1:47:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

False, but accurate?


12 posted on 07/04/2014 1:48:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: EDINVA

The plan sounds so positively Soviet, I can’t tell if RT is outraged or envious.


13 posted on 07/04/2014 1:54:21 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

“In the shocking letter, which has been leaked by the media...”

Seriously doubt this was “leaked” by the media.


14 posted on 07/04/2014 1:54:21 PM PDT by mark3681
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chrisser

“I suspect it wouldn’t get past “stage 1” before Russia would intervene.”

Implementation of “Stage 1” is already underway.

Kiev used the self-declared “Cease-fire” that wasn’t actually a cease-fire to move large amounts of men and equipment into the southeast.

Remember all of the talk last weekend about Poroshenko declaring martial law on the following Monday? Even Kiev press repeated that over and over.

That he didn’t, means something happened to stop him. Could it have been they found out this had been leaked to the Russians?

Remember, they have made some BIG, very high-level personnel changes this week, along with accusations of “spying for the Russians”. I still think the whole episode is being directed, or at least supported in various ways, from DC.


15 posted on 07/04/2014 1:55:28 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: mark3681

Check out the website of the “media” that leaked it. Who knew that the CIA is planning a FARC attack on the World Cup?


16 posted on 07/04/2014 1:57:10 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

That wouldn’t surprise me. I don’t think anything surprises me anymore. Zero doing a 180 would surprise, and shock, me. But I’m not holding out for that one.


17 posted on 07/04/2014 2:00:25 PM PDT by mark3681
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: mark3681
I am not kidding you:

Bushes Attended Denver Illuminati Sacrifice Witness Says!

How soon before RT picks it up?
18 posted on 07/04/2014 2:01:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf
this smells like sh!t to me... from things i've read from the RAND, they do Policy papers and STRATEGIC planning, the whole, Stage Two: Mop-up, sounds like it was written by a teenage gamer...
19 posted on 07/04/2014 2:09:59 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Are Tee strikes again.


20 posted on 07/04/2014 2:11:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chode

I actually tried to post the article I referenced in my comment #18. FR won’t allow it. LOL


21 posted on 07/04/2014 2:13:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

We won’t give them a chance to do this in the US.


22 posted on 07/04/2014 2:16:21 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

3,2,1


23 posted on 07/04/2014 2:18:05 PM PDT by mark3681
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Viennacon

“We won’t give them a chance to do this in the US.”

Wouldn’t we??
Remember how the media liberals changed the Bundy narrative over time?

Remember how the media liberals wrecked the “tea Party” brand?

Remember the narratives they used to destroy Sarah Palin?


24 posted on 07/04/2014 2:19:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy
LOLOL...
25 posted on 07/04/2014 2:20:10 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

They got it wrong, this is 0bama’s plan for the US.


26 posted on 07/04/2014 2:25:47 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

In all three cases, no shots were fired. Start firing up death camps, and its on.


27 posted on 07/04/2014 2:30:45 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Chode
If only RT tried to take themselves as a serious propaganda outlet. :)
28 posted on 07/04/2014 2:34:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy
pravda...
29 posted on 07/04/2014 2:43:27 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Exactly. Obama’s plan for us, and his think-tank butt boys think it is a one-size-fits-all plan to impose even against the interests of Putin. No way would Russia ever let that happen.


30 posted on 07/04/2014 2:57:46 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

They also report that

* ALERT: Flight MH370 Bio-Attack Likely Within Next 72-Hours
* United Nation’s Queen Openly Gives Cryptic “Occult Numerology” Warnings For 2014! Gates of Hell To Open This Month–Year? (Shocking Video Footage)
* Daily 2 Cents: Alien Girl And The Secret Apollo 20 Mission — The World’s Oldest Photograph — Penn State Spooks
* SECRET APOLLO 20 MISSION FINDS LUNAR CITY AND CORPSE
* Animals Keep Being Spotted On Mars!
* Hunter Shoots Arrows Into Robotic Android Aliens During Ferocious Experience
* Mutated ‘Superhuman’ Children - Is This Proof Of Nephilim?

This site is a gold mine.


31 posted on 07/04/2014 3:10:46 PM PDT by Krosan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: shalom aleichem
Obama’s plan for us, and his think-tank butt boys think it is a one-size-fits-all plan...

YEP.

Ukraine... U.S...

Its the thought (process in their bubble) that counts.

.

32 posted on 07/04/2014 3:12:47 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf
Looks like utter fabrication to me. I've read a lot of Rand stuff over the years and it generally has a very sleepy academic tone, and never uses the imprecision reflected in this document. I can go and steal the .gifs for the Rand logo from their site and mock up a memorandum to appear, superficially, to be from them. But I would do a better job.
33 posted on 07/04/2014 3:27:55 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Protocols of the Elders of Ukrane


34 posted on 07/04/2014 3:43:03 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

I’m not believing this is real. The situation is much more complicated than portrayed here.


35 posted on 07/04/2014 3:51:12 PM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime, it's the cover-up they said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

>> No way to know, currently, if this is true <<

It’s from RT. Therefore, it’s a propaganda hoax.


36 posted on 07/04/2014 8:05:34 PM PDT by Hawthorn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hawthorn

bump


37 posted on 07/04/2014 8:21:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf; a fool in paradise; sickoflibs

This is ridiculous. The idea that the US is advising Ukraine to destroy a whole region of their country in order to “win” over Russia is a colossal pile of poop.

First off it is the very worst advice. The Ukraine would lose any legitimacy and credibility is has if it tried to do this. This is kind of action a conqueror does not a defender.

This is the kind of cartoonishly bad “advice” one would expect pro-Russians might put out as a hoax. It is so unrealistic as to be laughable.

Someone is suggesting that Ukraine be like the old Soviet Union. Can’t be anything but a stupid joke.


38 posted on 07/04/2014 8:27:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Russians have removed this fake from their English language propaganda by now as it probably got too embarrassing. When you click the link now the article is gone. That lie is still blasted in their Russian language propaganda and it will be another thing that Russians will continue to believe.


39 posted on 07/05/2014 3:10:05 AM PDT by Krosan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Wally_Kalbacken
Obviously KGB produced garbage, spread by FR putinoids.
40 posted on 07/05/2014 8:26:00 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Krosan

It was just too bad to be believable, but I guess some Russians and other might believe it


41 posted on 07/05/2014 12:34:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

More Russian bullcrap propoganda.

Anyone believing anything comrade tcrlaf posts should give their head a good shake and maybe your common sense will return.


42 posted on 07/05/2014 7:15:52 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson