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Household Recycling is State-Endorsed Slavery
Breitbart's London ^ | July 5, 2014 | James Delingpole

Posted on 07/05/2014 7:36:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Recycling is authoritarian, demeaning and an unutterable waste of time, energy and money. No surprise, then, that the European Union is planning to force its vassal states to do much, much more of it.

Last week, the European Commission proposed its most draconian waste disposal legislation yet: a plan requiring 70 per cent of all municipal waste and 80 per cent of packaging waste to be recycled by 2030; a total ban of the landfill of recyclable waste by 2025, aiming "to virtually eliminate landfill" by 2030.

As even the Guardian quietly concedes, this is an impossible ambition:

The new targets will be difficult for the UK to meet, as recycling rates have recently stagnated after a period of rapid growth in the past decade. According to figures released by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) in November, 43.2% of waste in England was recycled in 2012-13. That figure was just 12% in 2001 but the UK is still well behind Austria and Germany, which recycle 63% and 62% of their waste respectively.

But that won't, of course, stop the green activists who have hijacked our councils (in accordance with Local Agenda 21) using it as an excuse to inflict further hairshirt misery on householders. On average, councils in Britain expect residents to sort their waste into four separate containers; but with some local authorities it's as many as seven boxes or multi-coloured bags. The record is held by Newcastle-under-Lyme which has nine different bins, bags and boxes.

This is the most extraordinary imposition on people's time. Research from Seattle suggests that it takes a typical household about 45 minutes per week to recycle its rubbish. In the US that works out at ninety million hours expended every week dividing green glass from brown glass from cardboard...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: europe; recycling
I don't do it, do you?
1 posted on 07/05/2014 7:36:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't do it, do you?

I do because the local trash company makes it largely painless. They have recycling bins which all the recyclables go into (no separation) and it is just as easy to toss my newspapers, magazines, boxes and drink containers into the recycling can as the regular trash can. Does it do any good? I don't know, but like it said it takes almost no work on my part. For all I know both halves of the trash truck get shoved into the same landfill.

2 posted on 07/05/2014 7:40:43 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hate recycling. On top of that, my town just had a Hazardous Waste Collection Day -- right when I was cleaning my basement and coming across several cans of various noxious things.

I decided to be a good doobie -- I took a small collection of cans to the collections site:

5 people working there.
1 customer (me)
Waited forever for someone to approach my car (big signs: DO NOT EXIT YOUR VEHICLE!)
They laughed at my small collections of material.
They demanded $20
They gave me a long speech about evil people who don't do what I was doing (huh? Why bore me?)
They took my name, address, phone #, etc. (they may find some of this information is inaccurate)
They tried to steal the large plastic bin I was using to transport the various cans.

I made up my mind: When I find more hazardous waste, I'm, throwing it in the woods.

3 posted on 07/05/2014 7:45:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do and very little garbage since we compost too. What do you do with used cat litter though. There is no way but to chuck it.


4 posted on 07/05/2014 7:46:34 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Officer Obie, I cannot tell a lie.

I put that envelope under the pile of garbage.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 7:49:14 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Better not be the woods on my property.

City people. Sheesh.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 7:49:47 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: ClearCase_guy

“When I find more hazardous waste, I’m, throwing it in the woods. “


Good for you. It’s insanity.

People are now getting rid of things behind stores,in parks,and even on a traffic island near me.

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7 posted on 07/05/2014 7:50:12 PM PDT by Mears
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope unless i want to buy scratchers


8 posted on 07/05/2014 7:52:33 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have two nearly equal sized containers, one for for trash and one for recyclables. I refuse to waste my time to read and learn the rules, so things get mixed up. Our trash trucks are automated to pick up the containers without the aid of a person, so no one is the wiser.


9 posted on 07/05/2014 7:54:52 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, you bet I do. I have properties. My recycle bin is always full. The trash bin is used for carpeting, drywall, roofing (little by little). I get the free dumpster, and I have sent couches, chairs, mattresses, tables, lamps, doors. You name it, it fits. Haven’t figured out the fridge, but I will. Metal I save for the metal buyers and make money.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 7:55:58 PM PDT by healy61
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To: ClearCase_guy

just let those cans of paint and stuff that dries out drie up and toss in garbage


11 posted on 07/05/2014 7:56:00 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: KarlInOhio
I do because the local trash company makes it largely painless.

Same here. All cans, bottles, plastics, paper get thrown together in one big container and rolled out to the street and they separate it all at the facility. Garbage is thrown in trash bag separately. They make money off the recyclables and that keeps the trash pickup costs down. One truck takes the garbage to the dump and the other to the recycling faciliity.

I like it.

12 posted on 07/05/2014 7:56:13 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I recycle. I throw it all in the garbage. it gets buried in the local landfill for future generations to use. I only have so many days on this planet. I’m not going to waste my time sorting garbage.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 7:57:21 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: healy61

Wouldn’t a refrigerator go to the metal people?


14 posted on 07/05/2014 7:58:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What's interesting is that some cities are taking a good hard look at "point of disposal" recycling -- that is, separating the materials before they are picked up at the curb or dumpster -- to see if it's even worthwhile. When you take into account the added cost of fuel and the emissions related to using separate trucks for the regular garbage and the different recycled materials, this type of recycling doesn't make any sense even from an environmental standpoint. The better approach would be to have the mixed garbage collected once, then separated at a transfer station to remove the recyclable materials.

For some materials -- like glass bottles and aluminum cans -- transfer stations will often separate these even when the law doesn't require it. They can generate extra revenue by selling these to industrial users.

15 posted on 07/05/2014 8:12:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Uncle Chip

And, it gives you more room for “trash.”


16 posted on 07/05/2014 8:15:51 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: KarlInOhio

And every ounce that you voluntarily recycle is sold by them to put more money in their pocket. I pay to have my garbage hauled off and I WILL NOT recycle so they can make money.


17 posted on 07/05/2014 8:26:57 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
I made this but I have no idea how it ended up sideways


18 posted on 07/05/2014 8:30:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Oooookaaaaay..........


19 posted on 07/05/2014 8:35:38 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

I took the pics myself. I am proud of it. :p


20 posted on 07/05/2014 8:38:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Penn and Teller did one of their “Bullsh*t” segments on this a while back - pretty much demonstrated that it takes more energy and expense to do the recyling bit than to simply toss all the waste in one bin to be collected and disposed of all at once......


21 posted on 07/05/2014 8:47:37 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Being a conservative, I delight in conserving things, including raw materials and energy, therefore I recycle as much as I can. I compost. I take my tree branches to the tree branch dump where they’re turned into free wood chips. Anything that still has enough value to be reused by someone is given to a charitable organization like ReStore or the Salvation Army.

While some recyclables don’t pay for themselves at all times depending upon market demand, recycling metals (ESPECIALLY aluminum which is often called “solidified electricity”) is ALWAYS a big win in terms of energy savings, reduced mining, and pollution savings.

Sometimes recycled paper pays for itself and sometimes not, but it’s satisfying in terms of the number of forests that don’t have to be cultivated and harvested. Kraft paper and products made from it do usually bring a profit. Mixed glass is probably the least profitable of the recyclables.

I believe in making use of the raw materials placed on this planet to make better lives for ourselves, but I see no reason to make wanton and unnecessarily destructive use, and keeping our air, water, and soil free from obvious poisons is a no-brainer as well. There’s no reason we have to use everything up now and leave little or nothing for our children and their children.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 9:17:18 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: OpusatFR
What do you do with used cat litter though. There is no way but to chuck it.

Pour it down a gopher hole.
23 posted on 07/05/2014 9:24:54 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I had a do-good neighbor, called the area transfer station to be sure they too TV and computer monitors. They said Yes they do.

So I helped him collect dead TVs and CRTs from a few other neighbors as well because we were making the trip, and we drove them there.

Once there we were informed by the idiots working there, that No They Don’t. We would have to drive them to the main landfill 30 miles away.

So we drove to the end of their driveway, just outside the fence, and opened the tailgate and dumped the whole load on the ground.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 9:26:40 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: Ellendra

Hahaha...I did that with a huge woodchuck on my property...I tried all kinds of things, but it was the cat litter that drove him away!

Tells you all you need to know about how foul used litter is!


25 posted on 07/05/2014 9:29:04 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: healy61
I get the free dumpster, and I have sent couches, chairs, mattresses, tables, lamps, doors.

Reminded me of this past March. Son had sublet apt at school in mid year, and prior tenant had left behind a ratty old sofa. We put it on Craigslist as Free - come and get it.

2 days later no bites, so dragged it 100 yards to back of the complex and heaved it into the dumpster. Old 80's era heavy wood style, etc. Weighed a metric sh*t ton.

Couple hours later, I took some plain old kitchen trash back to the dumpster and the sofa was gone. Cushions were still there.

Note to dumpster divers, look on C/L first - you might find something that has not yet had coffee grounds dumped on it.

I do NOT bother to recycle anything other than paper.

When I lived in CA in 1990's, we had to sort glass into 3 categories. Take the wax paper out of the Cheerios box and recycle the box with the newspaper. Plastics #1 and 2 rinse and put into another container. Only 32 gallons for family of 3 for trash, with the threat that they'd audit what was in there.

Moved to Texas. 96 gallon container and you can get another one if you need it.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 9:47:44 PM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was not my generation that came up with disposable diapers, plastic bottles, disposable furniture and all the plastic on everything at the grocery store. I still have and use most of my mom’s Tupperware, drink water out of a real glass and we use cloth napkins. Everything that’s trash goes in a large plastic bag at the curb twice a week. I also refuse to wheel that obnoxious green and yellow cart back and forth. I did find a good use for it though and store all the rakes, hoes, shovels and other lawn implements in it.


27 posted on 07/05/2014 9:48:09 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: catnipman

We recycle almost nothing. We buy the products at the asking price, and pay the service fee to dispose of the waste.
However, I do agree that aluminum, and to add to your point, lithium batteries (and a few other things) should be recycled. However, while other countries are teaching their children advanced math and engineering skills, I discourage teaching our Americans to sort trash.


28 posted on 07/05/2014 10:38:05 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Follow the recycling trucks sometime - - as I have done. Often, their contents are dumped into the same compacting pits along with the garbage. This is a known fact in our area.


29 posted on 07/05/2014 11:35:11 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am shocked - do you hear? - shocked, to learn that you Americans don't like recycling!

Here in my waste disposal district, we collect the following separate streams:

waste glass (again sorted by color: brown, green, and white) - must be taken to the various stations located about town;

packaging waste (in the so-called "Gelber Sack" - after rinsing yoghurt cups, etc.) - curbside pick-up;

waste paper - curbside pick-up;

residual waste ("Graue Tonne") - curbside pick-up; bulky waste - curbside pick-up on different days for different varieties (electronic waste on one day, waste wood on another, etc.); and

bio-waste ("Grüne Tonne") - curbside pick-up.

Additionally, one give the responsible waste disposal authorities a call and arrange to have them come by and pick up "Special Waste."

Further, many people take their dead batteries to work for separate collection and recycling.

Naturally, this all take quite a bit of effort and ti-

Sorry, gotta go: More waste to be processed!

Regards,

30 posted on 07/06/2014 12:12:01 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't do it and I have to take my own garbage off to a convenience center 8 miles away. Recycling has made what is usually a 15 minute wait now an even longer one even with the dump recyclables all in one dumpster system. You have Bubba who tosses all his unbagged trash for the month in him pickum up truck bed and say goodbye to it at the dumpster. He ties up the one line open for a considerable time oblivious to those waiting. Ooops wait a milk jug that goes in the other dumpster. He climbs down and slowly walks over to the recycling dumpster then resumes his task.

Next come the recyclers. Even though there is a special dumpster that takes all of it no sorting required they stand there sorting and saying goodbye to their garbage as well by reading labels looking for the recycle icon etc. How long does it take to put a bag in a dumpster? A recycler can take 5 minutes.

I just bag my trash, toss it in the truck, take it off to the center and dump it usually tossing two bags at a time. I've watched. I can have three times the trash to put in as the ones in front of me but I can get it emptied out in the third of the time one of them usually can. Even if I had 20 bags I can toss them all in the dumpster in less than 3 minutes time and be pulling away.

Nah the trash in the regular general dumpster gets recycled also. The landfill it goes to has buried lines that collect methane and other decomposing combustible gases that are then piped to an onsite power generating station.

31 posted on 07/06/2014 12:13:54 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: alexander_busek

A) We don’t like to be told what to do ... see Revolutionary War, Shay’s Rebellion, the War of 1812, Prohibition and the Civil War (B) we don’t want to waste hours sorting through our trash, washing certain items and etc. for free.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 12:16:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We were provided bins and my wife insists we use our bin (singular). No real big thing as all recyclables go into the same bin and they sort it out.

Some of the neighbors have their bins out every week and some have never put them out. As long as it's voluntary, I have no problem with it. If it becomes mandatory, I'll start taking all my recyclables and stuffing them in dumpsters instead of submitting.

33 posted on 07/06/2014 3:36:57 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
When I find more hazardous waste, I'm, throwing it in the woods.

That's what Haitians do, dude.

34 posted on 07/06/2014 4:01:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Salvey

That should be easy to tell in most areas since the dumps and the recycling centers are at different locations.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 4:17:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The county decided it couldn’t raise our property taxes by 10% or they’d be lynched. Instead they closed the dump sites unless you pay a $10 monthly fee. For that they’ll send around a garbage truck. Now, the reason they opened so many dump sites is this is very rural and before it was convenient to do so people just dumped their trash in the woods. (I’ve noticed trash bags on the side of the road, which I never saw before.)

But, they’ll take your recyclables for free. So, all of my neighbors, save one, have bought burn barrels. The stuff that won’t burn is, amazingly, recyclable.

Now, you dump this stuff in long containers with doors but no divisions between the sections. One is for cans, one for plastic and one for something else. Yesterday they had signs up that you couldn’t mix the cans, plastic and whatever. (Once they go through the doors there’s NOTHING to prevent them from mixing. Also, do they unload this thing by hand or dump the whole thing at once? I’d say the dump the whole thing at once.) I just looked around and saw nobody was watching and tossed in all my stuff. To keep it all separate means either standing there and doing it by hand or keeping three separate bins at home. Fluck’em.


36 posted on 07/06/2014 4:21:04 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: ClearCase_guy
"When I find more hazardous waste, I'm, throwing it in the woods."

I recycle it by using it to kill fire ants.

37 posted on 07/06/2014 4:27:25 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The transfer station to which I refer processes both recyclables and garbage, which are supposed to be treated separately, but instead are often lumped together. I’ve personally witnessed it.


38 posted on 07/06/2014 5:33:36 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve gotten into heated discussions on the fallacy of curbside recycling. And won most arguments.

In my city, I pay for trash pickup by the pound but recyclables are free so I do “recycle”. However, I flat out refuse to wash out cans and bottles not do I spend any time analyzing whether a piece of plastic is recyclable. If it’s heavy, it goes in the bin.


39 posted on 07/06/2014 5:40:52 AM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am the only employee at my company to refuse a recycling trash can. I refuse to participate in this farce. I know I am the rebel scum of the galaxy.


40 posted on 07/06/2014 8:17:22 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I don't do it, do you?"

Nope. Everything goes straight down the road to the dump. I hope the earth can survive my environmental sins. /S

41 posted on 07/06/2014 8:55:39 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: KarlInOhio
KarlInOhio:

Here's a question from grania in Ohio. I'm told that before recycling cans, one is supposed to rinse them out. That means all the ingredients in people's food is getting into the sewer system and out to Lake Erie.

How does that help the environment?

42 posted on 07/06/2014 9:04:09 AM PDT by grania
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To: ElkGroveDan

Pingie....


43 posted on 07/06/2014 9:07:20 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: loungitude

“I discourage teaching our Americans to sort trash”

Our recycling is picked up every other week as part of our normal weekly trash service, and the recycling is single stream, so there is no sorting. The only sort is trash in one can and recyclables in the other. That doesn’t seem overly difficult or intellectually taxing, does it?


44 posted on 07/06/2014 11:59:20 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ErnBatavia

‘zackly.

Thanks for catching this.


45 posted on 07/06/2014 12:09:29 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Flashback to a great article from a few years ago: Three Myths about Trash
46 posted on 07/06/2014 2:34:15 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: grania
Here's a question from grania in Ohio. I'm told that before recycling cans, one is supposed to rinse them out. That means all the ingredients in people's food is getting into the sewer system and out to Lake Erie.

1. I generally don't rinse them out. I don't know if the rinsing is supposed to make the recycling easier or if it is just supposed to keep from attracting rats to the recycling bins and plants.

2. Water going into the sanitary sewer system is processed the same way all sewage is. A little rinsed out corn that was left in the can is far less nasty than after I've "processed" it.

47 posted on 07/06/2014 6:47:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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