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SWAT Unit Kills Two Dogs, Finds Little Evidence In ‘No-Knock’ Raid
The Daily Caller ^ | 07/09/2014 | Chuck Ross

Posted on 07/10/2014 2:40:58 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

Instead of leaving with the drugs and weapons they were sent to find, a Minnesota SWAT team executing a “no-knock raid” left with the bodies of a family’s two dead dogs.

“The first thing I heard was ‘boom,’” Larry Lee Arman told KMSP, recalling the raid which occurred in St. Paul at 7 a.m. on Wednesday.

“Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Right in front of us.”

Equipped with a warrant for drugs and weapons, the SWAT unit barged in while Arman was asleep on a mattress with his two children, shooting Mello and Laylo, the family’s two pit bulls.

“One was running for her life, and they murdered her right here,” Arman said, with his dogs’ blood still on his sneakers.

“I was laying right here, and I really thought I was being murdered.”

Camille Perry, Arman’s girlfriend and the mother of his two children, was in the bathroom when the SWAT unit broke down her door. She expressed anger that the kids could have been injured.

“The only thing I was thinking was my kids were going to get hit by bullets,” she told KMSP.

According to the station, the SWAT unit was executing a search warrant for weapons and drugs. After the shooting and a search of the house, the police unit recovered none of one and very little of the other, finding a small amount of marijuana residue, some clothing, and a bong.

St. Paul police told KMSP that the dogs were shot because the SWAT unit feared for their safety, and department policy allows for the removal of such threats.

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Swat team is a disgrace and dogs are legally inside their home what did swat team think the dogs would do follow their verbal commands after breaking down the door rushing in yelling and screaming ? I am with the family this is murder.Every time it's the same ole story in fear of their lives.So if a human in the house starting moving he/she would be murdered claiming they feared for their lives. What is one of the kids moved towards the cop would he/she be in fear of their lives ?
1 posted on 07/10/2014 2:40:58 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Glad none of the kids were in a crib might have thrown a smoke grenade in there.


2 posted on 07/10/2014 2:43:31 AM PDT by bikerman (Because of the lack of ammo there will be no warning shots. Proud tea bagger.)
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To: moonshinner_09; null and void; All
thanks, for the post.
JBT ping.

3 posted on 07/10/2014 2:45:55 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: moonshinner_09

“......department policy allows for removal of the threats...”

Well, it may be policy, but it isn’t law. Regardless of ‘policy’, it is highly likely the SWAT team and police knew there were children in the home.

It may be policy, but if I’m ever on a jury for a civil suit on something like this, the police are going pay out the nose for their arrogance.


4 posted on 07/10/2014 2:47:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: moonshinner_09

This will stop when a dog owner caps one of these cops while in the commission of animal assassination...and a jury acquits the dog owner of any crime

Law Enforcement better wake up...folks are tired of their pets being shot


5 posted on 07/10/2014 2:48:14 AM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour rather work for drug cartels than Americans)
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To: DisorderOnBorder

The jury won’t need to acquit the dog owner.

He or she would be dead. Pull a gun during a SWAT raid on a SWAT team member and see what happens.

They’d be shot dead instantly. They might get one round off, and they’d be riddled with bullets in return by SWAT.


6 posted on 07/10/2014 2:51:33 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Enough of this sh*t. The towns that allow their police to run amuck like this need to be sued into oblivion.


7 posted on 07/10/2014 2:53:19 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Jack Booted Thug alert...This is becoming more and more typical of today’s cops in America.
Why are the politicians not taking issue of this increasing phenomenon? The entertainment industry is also to blame.


8 posted on 07/10/2014 2:55:22 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: moonshinner_09
So if a human in the house starting moving he/she would be murdered claiming they feared for their lives.

More than likely, all of them would have been murdered, and some throw away guns placed in their hands. After all, they can't have any witnesses that survive. The cops would never do that, would they? No, not possible. They are all pure as the wind driven snow. (sarc off)

9 posted on 07/10/2014 2:57:51 AM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Two Imperials, except Nero was a better fiddler, and didn't need a pen or a phone)
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To: DisorderOnBorder

I agree. One day somebody is going to return fire.


10 posted on 07/10/2014 3:00:39 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
They’d be shot dead instantly. They might get one round off, and they’d be riddled with bullets in return by SWAT.

You are right. I hesitate to say what I really think, so I will keep it to myself, unfortunately.

11 posted on 07/10/2014 3:03:52 AM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Two Imperials, except Nero was a better fiddler, and didn't need a pen or a phone)
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To: DisorderOnBorder

Really, all you have to do...after your dog is shot by the cop on a judge-signed search warrant...is go to the judge’s house and shoot his dog. A couple of events like this....and judges will be thinking over the effect of a warrant and the people he has to rely up on to carry out the warrant. Shooting a guy’s dog...at the most...gets you a month in some county jail. But it sends a message once you do it in retribution.


12 posted on 07/10/2014 3:30:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AlexW
Why are the politicians not taking issue of this increasing phenomenon?

Because all professional politicians want to grow the government. It's the business they're in. They've been growing it at twice the rate of the total economy, an expansion rate any private business would envy. Government is the most efficient wealth destroying mechanism ever invented so the expansion is inflating an unsustainable bubble that will collapse at some point. There will be a period when politicians will attempt to sustain their bubble business at all cost. History shows that means a militarized police state. We are seeing the start of that desperate period.

The best way to intimidate a captive population is not kill them, but kill their children. Dogs are the only family members Fedzilla can freely kill with no repercussions. The government hates dogs because they give citizens advance warning of approaching government workers.

13 posted on 07/10/2014 3:36:12 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: pepsionice

..is go to the judge’s house and shoot his dog.
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Judges , cops , lawyers , clerks ,, anyone connected with the government has the public records scrubbed to hide any hint of their identity or residence ... everything from land and tax records to D/L and license plate info is hidden from John Q. Public ... this makes them identifiable during traffic stops so that cops know not to ticket and instead just “warn” them without them having to pull the “do you know who I am?” line...


14 posted on 07/10/2014 3:58:50 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: moonshinner_09

Mr. Arman, has prior arrests for escape, possession of firearm by a felon, possession of drugs, fleeing police, conspiring to commit kidnapping, assault with dangerous weapon.

All these records can be viewed at Minnesota municipal court website.


15 posted on 07/10/2014 4:04:08 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Only if one is dumb enough to shoot during the raid.


16 posted on 07/10/2014 4:07:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Cap'n Crunch

The guy’s got quite a record. So why shoot the dogs?


17 posted on 07/10/2014 4:10:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: skinkinthegrass; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; ...
JBT Ping list


18 posted on 07/10/2014 4:22:30 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: moonshinner_09
Time to start setting traps for these dog murderers.


19 posted on 07/10/2014 4:31:24 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: moonshinner_09

Damn the bad, praise the good...

http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2014/07/jersey-city-cops-use-tranquilizer-instead-of-bullets-on-dog-to-arrest-owner/


20 posted on 07/10/2014 4:33:14 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: moonshinner_09

21 posted on 07/10/2014 4:36:13 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Reeses
“The government hates dogs because they give citizens advance warning of approaching government workers.’

Muslims, from the time of Mad Mo himself to today, also hate dogs because they warn of approaching danger.

SWAT team members are usually allowed to profiteer from forfeiture.

The reason the Spanish Inquisition was hated and feared was because it was funded by forfeiture. The Roman Inquisition was paid for by the Church.

Had Galileo been tried by the Spanish Inquisition he would have been tortured for profit by the same mentalities as are suited up in SWAT garb.

22 posted on 07/10/2014 4:36:18 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: AlexW
Why are the politicians not taking issue of this increasing phenomenon?

Because "law and order" has traditionally been a winning campaign theme, particularly at the local level and particularly among Republicans.

23 posted on 07/10/2014 4:41:43 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Cap'n Crunch

I don’t care. Don’t shoot the ******** dogs.

Substitute the harshest word in the English language for the asterisks.

And, your answer tells me you support the Police State. Because you are a cop, it informs me that it really IS ‘Us vs. Them’.


24 posted on 07/10/2014 4:50:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: moonshinner_09

SWAT teams need to be abolished; they have become a clear and present danger to the lives, liberty, and property of the American People.


25 posted on 07/10/2014 4:55:07 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Neidermeyer

“Judges , cops , lawyers , clerks ,, anyone connected with the government has the public records scrubbed to hide any hint of their identity or residence ...”

Sounds like they all have jobs........


26 posted on 07/10/2014 5:02:29 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: moonshinner_09

I was ready to get all worked up about the actions of the professionally trained dog killers until I got to this key fact:

“two pit bulls. “


27 posted on 07/10/2014 5:04:08 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Cap'n Crunch

So that makes it OK for the Gestapo to smash in his door, kill his dogs and any other thing the Gestapo want to do? In this case they found nothing. Go read the comments on the source link. You are defending evil. But that is what police do, isn’t it?


28 posted on 07/10/2014 5:15:02 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: moonshinner_09
"Swat team is a disgrace and dogs are legally inside their home what did swat team think the dogs would do follow their verbal commands after breaking down the door rushing in yelling and screaming ? I am with the family this is murder.Every time it's the same ole story in fear of their lives.So if a human in the house starting moving he/she would be murdered claiming they feared for their lives. What is one of the kids moved towards the cop would he/she be in fear of their lives ?"

It's getting to the point where the only way these SWAT teams will take a moment of pause before serving a no-knock warrant is if, upon their invasion into a family's home without warning, some family members in another room than the one being broken into take up arms in response to hearing shots being fired around their loved ones. It would take these family members killing several SWAT members to make these jack-booted thugs rethink their "tactic."

Unless they fear for their lives in executing no-knock raids, these will continue indefinitely.

29 posted on 07/10/2014 5:16:49 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Discarded fetuses for power? Hitler may have lost the battle, but he won the war.")
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
Unless they fear for their lives in executing no-knock raids, these will continue indefinitely.

I'd change "in" to "after" in order to accuracize your statement.
30 posted on 07/10/2014 5:40:06 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: Gaffer

I have a policy about anyone who harms one of my dogs. I doubt the cops would like it much. I don’t care. I’ll take my chances with a jury.


31 posted on 07/10/2014 5:41:53 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Robert Teesdale

Bingo. After. Long after. A dish served cold.


32 posted on 07/10/2014 5:55:46 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: moonshinner_09

Welcome to the USSA, Comrades!

A 6-minute YouTube video by yours truly and Mark P. Ferri, about the loss of freedom in America.


33 posted on 07/10/2014 5:56:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lurker

If I’m on the jury you don’t have anything to worry about.


34 posted on 07/10/2014 6:02:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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St. Paul police told KMSP that the dogs were shot because the SWAT unit feared for their safety, and department policy allows for the removal of such threats.

Must be some real tough men to be terrified by a couple of dogs while wearing all that armor. Real tough. I wonder if their panties are the same color as all that body armor?



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35 posted on 07/10/2014 6:02:57 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: moonshinner_09

I would be publishing pictures of the dead dogs and getting the emotional hype going. Use the situation like a Bambi or Lion King story and turn the public against them.

No weapons are needed. Just use the propaganda war on emotions against them.

Take pictures of the children with tears running down their faces and blood on them as they grieve for their lost pet. A few of these and public opinion would change.

When you are dealing with a public that is emotionally motivated by fear, use it. Crying and wailing are sometimes powerful weapons against oppression.


36 posted on 07/10/2014 6:04:46 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: pepsionice; All
is go to the judge’s house and shoot his dog. A couple of events like
this county jail. But it sends a message once you do it in retribution.
why just start w/ the judge's dog only...
just go down the line..Shoot the LEO's dog, too

Shoot their Big dogs..small dogs..no
exceptions, it's OUR STD. Policy

37 posted on 07/10/2014 6:22:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Mr. Arman, has prior arrests for escape, possession of firearm by a felon, possession of drugs, fleeing police, conspiring to commit kidnapping, assault with dangerous weapon.

Which translates into, "It's okay to grab him, guns a blazing, where there is a higher likelihood his kids, spouse, dogs and other innocents will be shot and killed."

Are you peace officers hired by us to protect and serve your communities, or are you law enforcement officers hired by bureaucrats to keep us compliant? You can't be both.

I used to thank peace officers when I saw them. Now I avoid you people (now "law enforcement officers") whenever possible. I'm far more afraid of you than the gangs in my town. They are far less capable of the wanton destruction my family.

38 posted on 07/10/2014 6:29:27 AM PDT by cizinec ( For the Republic!)
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To: Mark17

“They’d be shot dead instantly. They might get one round off, and they’d be riddled with bullets in return by SWAT.

You are right. I hesitate to say what I really think, so I will keep it to myself, unfortunately.”

Amen


39 posted on 07/10/2014 7:04:29 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Mr. Arman, has prior arrests for escape, possession of firearm by a felon, possession of drugs, fleeing police, conspiring to commit kidnapping, assault with dangerous weapon.

Should'a shot HIM- last time he ran. Then the dogs would be safe.

40 posted on 07/10/2014 7:23:06 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Neidermeyer

It is time consuming but simple to follow these people home after work. Just follow them part way each day and you’ll soon know more about them than you were expecting.


41 posted on 07/10/2014 7:24:00 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Gaffer

That is the same excuse all gov’t workers use for any problem and as an excuse for not using any logic or common sense. They are following policy. Following policy allows them to keep their job and pensions.


42 posted on 07/10/2014 7:30:16 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Robert Teesdale; All
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. ”― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
43 posted on 07/10/2014 7:47:38 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: pepsionice
Shooting a guy’s (judges) dog...at the most...gets you a month in some county jail.

I'd bet cold cash it would get you more than that.

FMCDH(BITS)

44 posted on 07/10/2014 7:51:08 AM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Mr. Arman, has prior arrests for escape, possession of firearm by a felon, possession of drugs, fleeing police, conspiring to commit kidnapping, assault with dangerous weapon.

All of this means, that the cops have no option if they want to execute a search warrant other than storming his home with  a large group of masked gunmen, killing his dogs, and terrorizing his children (not to mention the extreme danger they were place in) , all to recover some "pot residue" and a bong.

Great job drug warriors!

45 posted on 07/10/2014 8:17:04 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Equipped with a warrant for drugs and weapons, the SWAT unit barged in while Arman was asleep on a mattress with his two children...

They missed a golden opportunity to burn a couple of children. SWAT must be slipping.

46 posted on 07/10/2014 9:09:56 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Lazamataz

I guess most of you don’t realize that drug dealers use pit bulls and other large dogs for protection from other drug dealers and also to give the police something to do should they raid the house. Some drug dealers even have the dogs vocal chords removed.

I’m not defending the police. My view of no-knocks has changed. No-knocks should be done away with.

My point in this is to show what a fine, upstanding citizen this guy is, other than the story painted by the media.

How many of you would want this guy as your neighbor? I’m guessing none. I’m also guessing many of you, had you been living next to this guy, would be belly-aching because of the perceived inactivity of the police to shut down a drug house.


47 posted on 07/10/2014 9:43:53 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Wolfie

I am simply pointing out what the media failed to point out. This guys a thug. Most likely been to prison more than once. Probably kept the pits for protection against other drug dealers and to deter the cops.

I suspect (though I may very well be wrong) that his conspiracy/kidnapping/assault/weapons charge came from him breaking into another drug dealers house.

Funny how people on FR think the media lies, unless of course it comes to something that the cops do.

Amusing to me.


48 posted on 07/10/2014 9:53:18 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Where did I defend evil? All I did was put up a partial list of his criminal history.

Although the police found nothing, as you say, I’m sure that their narcotics officers had prior drug buys from the house. In other words, they were likely selling drugs and people went to jail.

Though the media doesn’t print that part.


49 posted on 07/10/2014 10:04:45 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
The initiation of deadly force against a nonviolent breach of law, is about as evil as you can get in a supposedly *free* society.

http://spatialorientationblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/swat.png

50 posted on 07/10/2014 11:45:31 AM PDT by FBD
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