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Next battle in “marriage equality” debate: Incest
The Northern Colorado Gazette ^ | July 11, 2014 | Jack Minor

Posted on 07/11/2014 10:57:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A judge has suggested that now that same-sex marriages and homosexuality have become more accepted the next logical step could be to legitimize incestuous relationships.

“A jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now ‘available’, not having [a] sexual partner,” Judge Garry Neilson from Australia said.

Neilson compared incest to homosexuality, saying that such relationships were once illegal.

“If this was the 1950s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you’d invariably have, they would say it’s unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone.”

Opponents of same-sex marriage have long predicted that once the traditional definition of marriage between a man and woman is changed then there would be no logical basis to prohibit any other type of marriage arrangement including polygamy and incest.

Supporters of same-sex marriage have disputed these claims insisting the situations are entirely different and that it is not hypocritical to call for expanding marriage to same-sex couples while denying it to siblings. The claim frequently made is incest can be legitimately prohibited due to the possibility of birth defects in offspring.

However, Neilson said while he agreed the only reason incest was currently a crime was because it may lead to abnormalities in children born from the relationship he said this argument is largely irrelevant because of the widespread availability of birth control and abortion.

Indeed, the same-sex marriage may have unwittingly provided ammunition for Neilson’s position by how they have changed the terminology used to bolster their cause.

In the early days of the debate over homosexual debate the issue was over “same-sex marriage.” However, when that phrase failed to garner support among many Americans who are still opposed to homosexuality the homosexuals and their supporters changed the phrase to “marriage equality,” thus downplaying the homosexual angle.

In 2012, the Democrat controlled legislature in Colorado was preparing to pass a civil union bill, the text of the legislation said its purpose was to ensure “equality” but it prohibited family members from entering into a civil union regardless of their sexual orientation.

State Sen. Kevin Lundberg, one of the two Republican senators on the Judiciary Committee who voted against the bill said it was hypocritical for Democrats to sponsor a bill that supposedly was for equality, but instead had discrimination written into it.

“When I was calling for the exemption for child placement organizations, Sen. Pat Steadman who sponsored the bill said no to the amendment because that would be allowing discrimination to occur and he was not going to do that,” Lundberg said. “I pointed out to him the bill itself has discrimination written into it by saying that two sisters or close relatives can’t be a part of a civil union. However it’s quite clear that they’re simply saying it’s my way or the highway in that respect.”

Lundberg said supports of the bill refused to defend or even respond to his question about discrimination.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: australia; consanguinous; garryneilson; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; incest; jihad; keepitinthefamily

1 posted on 07/11/2014 10:57:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought the baby rapers were up next!


2 posted on 07/11/2014 11:12:09 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They are inching forward, step by step, inch by inch,

Niagara Falls!

What this is headed towards is procreation. The state wants to control procreation. They will use every back door tactic to get the control

3 posted on 07/11/2014 11:12:15 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone wants genetic defective kids.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 11:14:58 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, I think polygamy first, then incest. But yeah, legal restrictions on marriage among consenting adults are done. The precedent has been set: The state has no compelling interest in telling consenting adults they can’t marry the people they love.


5 posted on 07/11/2014 11:16:32 PM PDT by RichInOC (Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, good Lord.

Can you say Sodom AND Gomorrah?

6 posted on 07/11/2014 11:19:07 PM PDT by berdie
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To: RichInOC
Don't kid yourself. They intend on the elimination of age of consent as well.

Scratch a homo find a pedophile, EVERY TIME. If they can adopt a kid, they will. If they can buy a Uterus they will buy one as a surrogate and wait. If they have to they will pretend to like a single mother to have access to her pubescent and prepubescent child.

It would all be easier if they can just convince people that it is natural and in reality it is even Christian to have sex with children. To deny them their nature is just your own prejudice, bigot!

7 posted on 07/11/2014 11:22:22 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: berdie

Can you imagine what they will want in say 20 years. I can’t, these people have no barriers to control them. If it feels good they just want it.
God will not let this just to continue.
It’s beyond what I ever thought would be acceptable.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 11:37:02 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: reefdiver
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

9 posted on 07/11/2014 11:44:28 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Germany 7 Brazil 1)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; melsec
I thought the baby rapers were up next!

Who knows, but maybe that is included in this already. I thought that bestiality was up next. If they allow this, how will the powers that be, deny approval and permission, to some idiot out there, who will demand he be allowed to marry his pet Beagle? You know there will be no end to the evil perversions that people will come up with.

10 posted on 07/11/2014 11:45:11 PM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors, except Nero was a better fiddler, and didn't need a pen or a phone)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marriage is all about love right?

Incest is a bit early. Next is polygamy. After that is pedophelia. Then incest.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 11:51:50 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thought I had seen every thing. Sheesh, really? Incest is okay in Australia? Next up...NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) gets recognized as a legitimate organization.

Some times I just want to give up. I'm so tired of fighting against the socialist/commie/degenerate machine. So glad I have my 1958 Chevy Impala to remind of a better day.

12 posted on 07/11/2014 11:57:01 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Spot on! You have nailed it. They are trading Natural Law for relativist man made law. We will see in the years ahead the chaos this misguided thinking creates. Watch for Big Government stepping in to regulate procreation. You will not be able to impregnate your wife without government certification.


13 posted on 07/12/2014 12:11:50 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Mark17

Spot on Mark - Homosexual Marriage is the gate that opens up the world to all the perversions that hell has to offer and all those on the devil’s side will revel in it!


14 posted on 07/12/2014 12:11:54 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: berdie

The perversion never ends. We’ve seen this chapter play out in other civilizations so we know what’s coming next. The destruction and fall of this once great nation.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 12:30:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s a cartoonist with some serious cajones...


16 posted on 07/12/2014 12:32:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Dallas59

They’ll just abort them by slitting their throats anyway. The left is perverse


17 posted on 07/12/2014 12:41:46 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With gay “marriage”, you’ve already hit the bottom of the barrel.
Everything else is or has been common at some place and time.
Gay marriage is the one thing no one before carried over the threshold.


18 posted on 07/12/2014 12:49:44 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: jsanders2001
...”The perversion never ends. We’ve seen this chapter play out in other civilizations so we know what’s coming next. The destruction and fall of this once great nation.”...

You are 100% correct. Political correctness which has ushered us to this place, is returning civilization to the jungle. I wonder if people have noticed that sexual perversions seem to always lend themselves to perversions of thought processes in general. Lack of sympathy and empathy, I think, is one stark example of this. Forcing sexual activity on children, in my view, deserves the death penalty, for those acts kill something in that child and may even effect brain development..That child will never developed as normal. The day that pedophilia is tolerated in this nation is the day we all can know that our government has been infiltrated by an army of the perverse.

19 posted on 07/12/2014 1:48:27 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: melsec
all the perversions that hell has to offer and all those on the devil’s side will revel in it!

I believe Romans 1:32 applies here.

20 posted on 07/12/2014 2:14:43 AM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors, except Nero was a better fiddler, and didn't need a pen or a phone)
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To: Mark17

I believe you are quite correct! :)


21 posted on 07/12/2014 3:11:24 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"now that same-sex marriages and homosexuality have become more accepted the next logical step could be to legitimize incestuous relationships."

I certainly can't dispute this.

How quaint of Neilson to restrict his New Frontier to brother-sister incest. If there's nothing wrong with that--what's wrong with parent-child incest--or any other kind of incest for that matter? Or adult-child sex? Or adult-infant sex?

Note tagline.

22 posted on 07/12/2014 4:35:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: jonrick46
What this is headed towards is procreation. The state wants to control procreation.

If by controlling procreation you mean enforced abortion, I think you're spot on. All governments grow and accumulate power. What greater power can their be than the power over the life and death of your subjects. The State, having destroyed religion and religious beliefs, wants to become God.

23 posted on 07/12/2014 4:58:43 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems like islam.


24 posted on 07/12/2014 6:21:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Jim from C-Town

Oh, no doubt. I’m just saying they’re going to do consenting adults first.


25 posted on 07/12/2014 6:44:33 AM PDT by RichInOC (Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.)
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To: Dallas59
Everyone wants genetic defective kids.

Don't you understand? The defects get aborted? And besides, now this clears the way for what they would call "gay intrafamily marriage equality".
26 posted on 07/12/2014 6:48:38 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will get the attention of the Dems and GOPe Lite™. Why? Money! There goes the death tax. I can marry my dad and get his money tax free!


27 posted on 07/12/2014 6:52:18 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Who could have seen this coming?” She asks with a sarcastic smirk on her face.


28 posted on 07/12/2014 7:33:02 AM PDT by lastchance (People)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing says loving like doing your cousin.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 7:48:27 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Organic Panic
This is not about marriage -- it's not about homosexual "marriage"; it's not about incestual "marriage"; it's not about any kind of "marriage" as "marriage" is redefined with each passing week and with each new judicial edict.

This -- along with the rest of the Left's agenda -- is focused like a powerful laser beam on undermining America's Judeo-Christian values and heritage to the point of irrelevancy.

Unfortunately, many decent Americans have been reluctant to come to grips with the fact that their fellow citizens on the Left hate America and everything America stands for ... it is a hard thing to accept. But, just as the mulatto-marxist-muslim put it concisely back in 2008 when he said his goal was to "fundamentally change the United States of America" -- in his confused mind, all 57 states -- this is a fact.

30 posted on 07/12/2014 8:01:48 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Sodomite “marriage” may the bottom of the barrel, all right. But our dying civilization has hit bottom and started digging.


31 posted on 07/12/2014 8:02:45 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Flick Lives
Government control over procreation besides enforced abortion would include enforced birth control of those who fail the government test (like driving certifications) DNA testing, sterilization of those deemed unfit, population control, and eventually, having it all done in a test tube. They read the book Brave New World and thought it was cool. Soma for all!
32 posted on 07/12/2014 8:12:49 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

“you got four, five cousins around; now I got me a cousin, since I come to town, I done got wise...” — Muddy Waters

(he was talking about infidelity though)

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 8:25:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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a.k.a. shariah marriage


34 posted on 07/12/2014 8:27:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: All
"What next?" is not the right question.

There's no perversion road map that has to be followed, just an opportunistic testing of limits on all fronts.

35 posted on 07/12/2014 9:54:33 AM PDT by Salman
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