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WI: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Shoots Accused Robber, Carjacker
Gun Watch ^ | 13 July, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/13/2014 2:18:30 PM PDT by marktwain

In Milwaukee, ,a woman with a concealed carry permit shot a would be robber who had been released after being accused of shooting a man in the face during an attempted car-jacking the day before.   The potentially impressive criminal career has probably ended, as the suspect is now paralyzed and in the hospital.   He is 15 years old.   From

Police said a woman the 15-year-old tried to rob near 14th and Olive streets the day after the Motley carjacking, pulled a gun on him.
Motley and his wife said the victim had a conceal carry permit and shot the teen during a struggle.
The Crime Prevention Research Center has found that as the number of concealed carry permits has risen, the crime rate has dropped.  
Between 2007 and the preliminary estimates for 2013, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.4 per 100,000 – a 22 percent drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 130 percent. Overall violent crime also fell by 22 percent over that period of time.
This case may illustrate a microcosm of that trend.   Most violent crimes are committed by a tiny number of violent criminals that are members of distinct, ultaviolent, urban, criminal, subcultures.

Consider that young criminal whose budding career has been teminated by a concealed carry permit holder.

How many crimes would he likely have committed over the next 10, 20, or 30 years?   A hundred?  A thousand?  Several thousand?  All of those crimes have now been prevented.  And how many fellow criminals are now going to get the word that armed robbery is not a smart career choice?

   Criminals fear armed citizens as much as they fear police.

It is not hard to see how crime rates can be pushed down by more honest people carrying guns, or to put it succinctly from John Lott's book: "More Guns Less Crime".

John Lott writes that the people who benefit the most from the spread of concealed carry permits are urban minority women.   Professor Brian Anse Patrick, in "Rise of the Anti-Media" notes that the percentage of women with concealed carry permits is increasing faster than the percentage of men.   Stephanie Carter notes that in Texas, the fastest growing demographic of concealed handgun permit holders is black women.

From "More Guns Less Crime", page 20:

"One additional woman carrying a concealed handgun reduces the murder rate for women by about 3-4 times more than one additional man carrying a concealed handgun reduces the murder rate for men."
 It is not hard to see why "shall issue" concealed carry permit systems have spread across the nation, and why the votes to bring about national reciprocity for concealed carry permits exist in both the Senate and the House of Representatives.   Only the Senate Leadership of Harry Reid and the Presidency of Barack Obama are preventing national reciprocity for concealed carry permits, similar to national reciprocity for drivers licenses.  No one knows how many lives could be saved by such a measure.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; guncontrol; wi
The vast majority of violent crimes are committed by a tiny, violent, subset of society.

Don't "progressives" say "if it just saves one life"?

1 posted on 07/13/2014 2:18:30 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

From the comments at the link;

“I’m sure he was just getting ready to turn his life around. Now he can’t turn around. Oh the irony”

2 posted on 07/13/2014 2:30:13 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

Having grown up in Milwaukeestan, I thank my Dad on a regular basis for getting us OUT of there. And that was back in 1970; a short 44 years ago!

ALL of our family has gotten out - I cannot imagine living in our old ‘hood these days. Used to be all hard-working Germans, Jews and Norskis. Cops. Firemen. Tradesmen. Brewers. Bankers. Bakers.

Now? 100% ghetto. And coming to a Socialist Mecca near you!

3 posted on 07/13/2014 2:30:47 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: marktwain

Bigger gun, or better ammunition is needed in this case, because the Urban Feral will now be a veggie and cost vastly more than it will ever be worth.

4 posted on 07/13/2014 2:31:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: marktwain

When the libtards say police protect us,

say are you for more police?

they generally say yes. if no, ask if they believe cops are deterrents? if they get to yes, then

explain that they in reality, are agreeing that more guns equals more deterrence and less crime.

those cops are carrying guns. a liberal who thinks more cops is the answer is really saying more guns is the answer.

criminals don’t fear unarmed cops. they don’t fear unarmed people. they do fear getting shot, doesn’t matter by who.

5 posted on 07/13/2014 2:32:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain
Shouldn't violent offenders claiming dual continentality be deported to their so called continent of claim?

They don't claim to be Americans first. They don't behave like Americans. Why should they be allowed to stay here?

6 posted on 07/13/2014 2:33:33 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ah, but they have the famous “Black Holocaust” Museum which I’m sure from the many highway signs is a sure tourist draw.

7 posted on 07/13/2014 2:33:53 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Obama Administration: A conspiracy of corruption and incompetence.)
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I guess in order to be politically correct they just had to use the term


The feral punk deserved to die in the process of his crime.
That's not accused!

8 posted on 07/13/2014 2:49:29 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My family lived one block away from 14th and Olive, as mentioned in the story, during WWII. Nobody locked their house or worried about crime. The scariest thing was the polio epidemics. Went back about 10 years ago to look at the old “hood” -—— I left in a hurry!

9 posted on 07/13/2014 3:02:08 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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To: marktwain

My brother and I installed some doors on a friend’s rental on the near-northwest of Milwaukee. We were very concerned that our tools were going to disappear if we looked away for a moment.

Another friend (electrician) was doing work in an alley in that same area. His ladder moved, and he fell to the pavement. As he lay there, he was robbed by two teens. They emptied his truck too. This was during the day...
Night time travel through this area is not advised.

My brother later got caught up in some impromptu urban street-blockage/music blast. Dozens of urbanites blocked the streets, got out of their cars, and danced to blaring music. He climbed over the curbs and boulevards with his truck and got out of there. Two block away, the city police sat in their cars. My brother told them what was happening, and they thanked him, and sent him on his way.

The Milwaukee county police are the only ones that will intervene. Sheriff Clark is The best thing Milwaukee has going for it. Great, no-nonsense guy! But one guy can’t change things by himself.

10 posted on 07/13/2014 3:37:48 PM PDT by OldCountryBoy (You can't make this stuff up!)
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“criminals fear armed citizens as much as they fear the police”.
WRONG: The criminals fear an armed citizen much more than they fear the police.
They know the police want to arrest them rather than shoot them (to much paperwork after a shooting).
They know the armed citizen will just KILL THEM; empty the magazine, reload and empty the magazine again.
Honest your Honor, I don’t remember a thing after I was attacked, I just reacted because I was in a panicked terror and feared for my life.

11 posted on 07/13/2014 3:55:30 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: marktwain

Oops... criminal found the wrong victim

12 posted on 07/13/2014 5:00:32 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Massad Ayoob calls is a “failure in the victim selection process”.

He is a famous self defense instructor.

13 posted on 07/13/2014 9:24:44 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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I saw an attempt of a carjacking in New Orleans.
I was in the drive through of a McDonalds when a young kid walked up to the car in front of me. I mean a kid, probably 12 or 13. He held up a semiauto sideways style at the driver. Now, the driver was blocked in, so I don’t know what the kids was thinking, but he still tried. Then the driver, a black female produced a large revolver out the window and cocked the hammer back. Kid ran off. The black female was a sheriff’s deputy. Had the driver shot the kid, how would the media have played that one?

14 posted on 07/13/2014 9:34:39 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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