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Meet the honest 27 year old single mom from PA who faces 3 years in a New Jersey prison
wyblog ^ | 12 July, 2014 | Chris Wysoki

Posted on 07/16/2014 10:24:31 AM PDT by marktwain

Meet the honest 27 year old single mom from PA who faces 3 years in a New Jersey prison

Shaneen Allen is no dangerous criminal. She's a single mom working 2 jobs who's already been robbed twice while traveling alone at night in Philadelphia. Her family suggested that she carry a gun for protection. She took a gun safety course, applied for and was granted a concealed carry permit, and bought a gun.

Then she made the mistake of driving into New Jersey.

Now she's going to prison.

Allen said that she didn't know her permit didn't apply to New Jersey so when she was stopped for a minor traffic offense she told the police about her gun and her permit to carry. In this case, being honest may have cost her.

"The judge tried to tell me that telling the truth messed me up, my life up and the cop said the same thing. Me opening my mouth and speaking out he said I'm one out of ten people that spoke up and was honest and that got me in trouble," she said.

Allen was charged with unlawful possession of a weapon and possession of hallow-point bullets which were in the gun. Under New Jersey gun laws, the illegal possession of a gun is a second-degree felony which holds a minimum sentence of three-years in prison.

I hope all you moms demanding "gun sense" are happy. Because your draconian gun laws are working. They're taking dangerous criminals like Shaneen Allen off the streets, and leaving her kids to fend for themselves.

Oh, but wait, elsewhere in New Jersey today…

Atlantic City: Shortly before noon a man was shot in the back at the corner of Connecticut and Drexel Avenues.

Camden: 2 people were shot this morning at the Regency House Apartment complex.

Winslow Township: A teen is recovering after a stray bullet hit her through a bedroom wall.

Paterson: A 19 year old man was arrested in the shooting death of 12 year old Genesis Rincon, who was killed while riding her scooter.

Newark: The homicide toll now stands at 44 after Edison Javier Vasquez Naranjo, 27, was found shot outside a home on the 200 block of 4th Street near the city's Branch Brook Park.

Putting a 27 year old single mom in prison surely would have prevented all that, right?

Of course not. Only an idiot, or a member of Moms Demand Action (but I repeat myself), could think otherwise.

All the feel-good legislation in the world wouldn't have stopped today's (or any other) shootings. And locking up Shaneen Allen is a travesty. She'll rot in jail just so preening soccer moms can pat themselves on the back.

Because that's what our state calls "justice" these days.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; guncontrol; newjersey; nj; shaneenallen
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Chris Christie should be able to pardon this young woman without a problem...
1 posted on 07/16/2014 10:24:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Wanna bet the doughboy DOES NOT!


2 posted on 07/16/2014 10:26:19 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: marktwain

I hate, despise, loathe, and f*rt in the general direction of liberals.

I hope and pray that someday, somehow, they will come to their just end...and a just end is not a pleasant one.

For them.


3 posted on 07/16/2014 10:27:03 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: marktwain

Tell me how NJ can cancel out the Constitution? It would appear as if they are infringing upon her RKBA.


4 posted on 07/16/2014 10:27:31 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: marktwain

I see the NRA had her back.


5 posted on 07/16/2014 10:28:32 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Dick Bachert

The Police are not your friends.

Do not talk to them.

Do not volunteer any information.


6 posted on 07/16/2014 10:29:04 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: marktwain
hallow

really?

7 posted on 07/16/2014 10:29:22 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: marktwain

It’s lucky she didn’t drive into Mexico!


8 posted on 07/16/2014 10:29:22 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: marktwain
This is the reason America is so F-—ed up! Fifty empires that seem to reject the Constitution on the right to carry after proper training and certification from one State is shi! in another.
9 posted on 07/16/2014 10:29:39 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: afraidfortherepublic

... or have a dog in the car


10 posted on 07/16/2014 10:30:23 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: marktwain
In NJ honest people are targets. Targets for criminals and
targets for cops. That's not even a slight exaggeration.
11 posted on 07/16/2014 10:30:37 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

.....or record the incident


12 posted on 07/16/2014 10:30:42 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
The Police are not your friends.

This is becoming more evident every day.

13 posted on 07/16/2014 10:31:05 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: marktwain

if she were....OTW....thats Other Than White...he might act..


14 posted on 07/16/2014 10:31:37 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: marktwain

hallow-point bullets???

Did the hollow point bullets contain holy water?

Or were they just blessed before loading in the gun?


15 posted on 07/16/2014 10:32:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: marktwain
Chris Christie should be able to pardon this young woman without a problem...

Except for that problem where he's a fat, liberal pussy. Other than that, yeah, no problem.

Oh, and Shaheen is definitely not guilty, either criminally OR photographically.

16 posted on 07/16/2014 10:32:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Revelation 911

And you thought regular personal defense ammunition was expensive.

What does ammo rated for demons cost?


17 posted on 07/16/2014 10:34:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: marktwain

Reminds me of a story about a Marine currently residing in a mexican prison.

In NJ, only gangbangers and mafia are allowed to carry. Krispy kreme doesn’t want any of his homies to get all shot up while running their rackets.


18 posted on 07/16/2014 10:34:13 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: rjsimmon
Tell me how NJ can cancel out the Constitution? It would appear as if they are infringing upon her RKBA.

The same way the other 49 States, the District of Columbia, and the Federal Government itself infringe on all of our RKBA. They defecate on the Constitution.

19 posted on 07/16/2014 10:34:23 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: thackney; All

“And you thought regular personal defense ammunition was expensive.

What does ammo rated for demons cost?”

There is a long tradition of clergy blessing weapons.

As others may have guessed, I did not write the article, and am not about to edit someone else’ work without their permission.


20 posted on 07/16/2014 10:36:13 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Can’t we just cut off New Jersey and float them down to Cuba? They can take Philadelphia and Scranton with them.


21 posted on 07/16/2014 10:36:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

In Texas the law says you have a “duty to inform” the police if you have a weapon.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.


22 posted on 07/16/2014 10:37:07 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: marktwain

Where is doughboy in all of this — breaking doughnuts with the doughnut munchers that arrested her??


23 posted on 07/16/2014 10:37:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: marktwain

I’m willing to bet that Ms. Allen has voted Democrat since she turned 18. I feel bad for her and her children but:

1. She should know exactly which states have reciprocation with PA.

2. Never talk to the Police unless required to.

There is an excellent App called CCW in Google Store (probably Apple store too), that has a map on reciprocation and laws within each state on carrying. I’ve look at it every time I take a trip (and why I will never go to SC).


24 posted on 07/16/2014 10:38:03 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: marktwain

Please be assured, I was not poking fun at you, but the original author. I did not mean to imply otherwise.

Such typos are great for gathering extra posts and gaining attention to the article.

Cheers!


25 posted on 07/16/2014 10:38:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

I actually have a box of .40 SW Hornaday “Zombie Stoppers”. Pretty funny.


26 posted on 07/16/2014 10:39:04 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: thackney
What does ammo rated for demons cost?

As of yesterday's spot prices ...

A 230 gr silver bullet would cost $10.91 in materials. Figure in the brass, powder & primer, you're probably up to about $11.50 per round. A tad expensive ... but then what is your immortal soul worth?

27 posted on 07/16/2014 10:39:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Da Coyote

Agree, of course.

Can’t help but note the vicious cycle. By and large, single moms are responsible for the people against which this single mom needs to defend herself.


28 posted on 07/16/2014 10:39:44 AM PDT by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: rfreedom4u

In MN you have to tell, if you’re asked.


29 posted on 07/16/2014 10:39:55 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: rfreedom4u
In Texas the law says you have a “duty to inform” the police if you have a weapon.

In Texas, we won't put you in jail for a legal firearm.

30 posted on 07/16/2014 10:39:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

According to her picture and DL, she is OTW.

Where are Al and Jesse?

*crickets*


31 posted on 07/16/2014 10:41:07 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

There is a similar case where a guy travel thru NJ but stopped at his mothers. His mother was concern that he just divorced his wife and might commit suicide. She called the cops to find him. Cops later located him back at his mothers. When ask where his guns were, he told them they were in his car, because he was moving from his old home to a new apartment at a new out of state location. The cops confirmed the story and the guns were packed in the guys towed trailer on the bottom of all his household items. When the report reached the local DA, the DA decided to press charges. According to NJ law, when traveling to old location to new location, one cannot deviate from a reasonable direct route nor can one make stops along the way. Stopping at his mothers place was a violation of NJ gun transportation laws.
Another similar case involved a former out of state police officer who was traveling thru NJ to his new location out of state. He decided to park in a lot to rest and dozed off. Cops came by an noticed a lone car with driver in it and stopped to check. The awoken driver explained what happen and showed ID. One cop noticed the thru the station wagon window some boxes that look like possible gun cases and ordered a search of the vehicle for firearms. Packed guns were found and the out of state driver was charged with violating NJ transportation of gun laws, person must travel from old location directly to new location. No unreasonable stops allowed. Both of these individuals went to jail. Gov Christie commuted the sentence of the first one, but the arrest is still on his record and his right to own guns in the US is forfeited.


32 posted on 07/16/2014 10:41:18 AM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: rfreedom4u

“In Texas the law says you have a “duty to inform” the police if you have a weapon.”

According to my CCW app (for Texas),

Sec411.187 has been amended effective 9/1/09 to remove any penalty (sec 2a) for breaking 411.205

You are supposed to, but there is no penalty for not doing so. I would confirm this is still accurate, obviously.


33 posted on 07/16/2014 10:42:10 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: marktwain
...possession of hallow-point bullets...

They need better proofreaders.

34 posted on 07/16/2014 10:42:12 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: marktwain
Sounds like she has the same troubles as our Marine in Mexico.
35 posted on 07/16/2014 10:42:59 AM PDT by angcat
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To: marktwain
Many, many years ago I was a law clerk to a judge in the District of Columbia, a very fine judge. We had a similar case involving a young man from Alaska who had come to town. In his world everyone of age carried a gun and no one though anything about us. Not an experienced traveler into the lower 48, he thought nothing of bringing his gun along. I could not help but tell my judge privately at the bench as soon as the charging prosecutor explained the circumstances what a travesty it was and that there clearly was not a "smidgen" of criminal intent.

My judge, a very wise man, dismissed the case, admonishing the young man that in the future, when he traveled outside Alaska he should leave his gun at home. Reading what the judge in New Jersey said, namely, that the young mother should not have opened her mouth and everything would have been OK, I question the practical wisdom of this particular judge. His decision not did not do anything to deter crime, it punished an innocent person from protecting herself against it.

36 posted on 07/16/2014 10:43:01 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: marktwain
“honest 27 year old single mom from PA who faces 3 years in a New Jersey prison”

This is what gun control is! This is exactly what the Democrats want.

Gun control laws are intended only to prevent honest hard working citizens from being able to defend themselves. That is all they are.

Where Democrat politicians are in charge they make sure that the street criminals and thugs have plenty of guns available. They make sure the violent criminals have nothing to worry about.

A few miles from here a career criminal who killed innocent people and shot a policeman was memorialized and treated like a hero.

Meanwhile honest, hard working citizens are expected to live in fear.

37 posted on 07/16/2014 10:46:59 AM PDT by detective
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To: marktwain

This arrest and prosecution is doubly outrageous given the racist roots of gun control legislation.


38 posted on 07/16/2014 10:48:31 AM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It is a law in many states that if you are pulled over by the cops you must disclose that you have a CC permit, even if you do not have the gun in the car. That’s the FIRST thing you say to the cop who pulls you over.

If you do not say it and they run your ID and find out you are a CC permit holder, and you didn’t disclose it up front, you could be in trouble much like this woman was in trouble.

She was probably remembering this law from her CC classes. Too bad that she did not remember the part about different States having different laws.


39 posted on 07/16/2014 10:48:45 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: marktwain

Another crime with no victim.


40 posted on 07/16/2014 10:50:13 AM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: marktwain
On the one hand, one of the first things you learn in a CCW class (or at least in the class I took) was that as a CCW holder you are responsible for knowing the laws in whatever states you live in or travel to. So she should have checked on the Fascist State of New Jersey's gun laws before going there (assuming this was a planned trip and not a case of missing an exit). In that sense it is her fault that this happened.

On the other hand, the fact that New Jersey does not recognize the permits of its neighbor states is (frankly) stupid--right up there with the REST of their draconian gun laws! Just from my own experience, Kansas had reciprocity agreements with all of its neighbors even before it chose last year to honor all CCWs. That kind of "gun law" just makes sense. If you want to push for "sensible gun laws," that is the first place to start, quickly followed by national CCW reciprocity.

But are the Moms and Mayors going to do that? Of course not.

41 posted on 07/16/2014 10:50:26 AM PDT by lcms rev
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To: The Good Doctor

Of course, without knowing the story it’s premature to lump this particular single mother into that category. There are more ways to become a single mother than just not getting married first.


42 posted on 07/16/2014 10:53:40 AM PDT by lcms rev
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To: marktwain; tx_eggman
"hallow-point bullets"

What, they were consecrated by a priest?!?!
43 posted on 07/16/2014 10:55:51 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: marktwain

“She’ll rot in jail just so preening soccer moms can pat themselves on the back.”

This sums it up pretty good.


44 posted on 07/16/2014 10:57:58 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: marktwain

If she had also been an Illegal Alien then they would have let her go.


45 posted on 07/16/2014 10:59:15 AM PDT by Revel
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To: TheDon
Another crime with no victim.

Miss Allen is the victim of a crime against the Constitution. Perpetrator is the State of New Jersey.

46 posted on 07/16/2014 10:59:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Lorianne

Also, in another account of this story that I read earlier today, she was pulled over for an unsafe lane change. I noticed one thing right away when I started driving with a gun in my truck....I became the most calm, courteous, law-abiding driver on the road.


47 posted on 07/16/2014 11:04:33 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: Azeem
You are supposed to, but there is no penalty for not doing so.

I wonder if by breaking the law, they would decline future renewal of the CCW permit.

48 posted on 07/16/2014 11:06:19 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Azeem
Stay silent in any attempt at incriminating questions, (Officer) - Yes, Officer - No, Officer - I do not consent to searches, Officer - Are you going to arrest me, or am I free to go, Officer

If arrested stay silent (Officer) and only ask for legal council and badge numbers

Contact State Attorney General and ask them if they are "intere$$$ted" in their re-election prospects (If Officer overstepped boundaries)
49 posted on 07/16/2014 11:07:42 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Logical me

Should have said she was going to her gay wedding


50 posted on 07/16/2014 11:08:53 AM PDT by ballplayer
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