Skip to comments.Shameless Scumbag Vladimir Putin Blames Ukraine for What HIS Bone-Headed Thugs Did
Posted on 07/17/2014 9:40:41 PM PDT by Reaganite Republican
not defending anyone here but it seems like flying a commercial jet over a war zone with known automated air defense systems in place is a bad idea.
Funny that the two most powerful men in the world go by the same name. The Shameless Scumbag Twins.
good point. it also seems if we had someone who had the balls to stop Vlad, we would not be where we are today.
Vlad is doing what we all knew he would do and bammy is doing nothing about it.
I keep asking... why is the WH unwilling to call Malaysia Air and ask for the passenger manifest?
The plane was cleared by international traffic control for that route.
But that’s not the topic here- the Russians shot it down and are attempting to blame Kiev.
And I am resisting that-
The US used to be the only superpower capable of keeping Russia (and the USSR) in check. Unfortunately, we're currently out to lunch.
‘Putin says Ukraine bears responsibility ...’
Who knows? Maybe he’s right.
The truth is ALWAYS their enemy
And we plebes aren’t even worthy of it
In retrospect, that was probably a bad idea.
I'm sure there are battalions of lawyers gearing up who will agree wholeheartedly.
Ukraine doesn’t have the weapons
AND Putin said they bear responsibility because it’s ‘over their territory’
That’s funny, I thought they considered Donetsk to be Strelkov’s and Putin’s territory just yesterday
Putin says ‘if there was peace over this land’ while HE is the person most culpable ON EARTH for the mayhem in Ukraine!!!
So no blame for the Kremlin?
When they give a bunch of yahoos advanced AA weaponry?
It hurts Putin’s position to have this plane blow up.
For exactly the reason of articles like this - with this plane blowing up over Ukraine, Russia stands to be blamed for it.
And yet, Russia would gain nothing by shooting down a civilian airplane, other than the contempt of the rest of the world.
The US government, neocons, the UK government, Western banking, etc., - they all benefit from articles like this.
They want the US military to engage in Ukraine to prop up the regime in Kiev and get Ukraine to sign itself into the European Union.
If the US government and its “controllers” can use this plane blowup to rally neocon support for American military action in Ukraine, the event benefits their goals more than anyone else.
Going by who stands to benefit from the event, the finger must point at a Western-backed black op to knock this plane out of the sky over Ukraine.
Putin head psychopathy of a nation of psychopaths.
Taking a page out of the Obama playbook.
You do know the Russian thugs already admitted to shooting it down? You’re late with the conspiracy theory.
Probably some separatist a-hole was drunk and fired at a plane
Perhaps a stray Chechnyan. They build teams in a hurry over there, and what about the speculation that Putin himself was in range of the missile reported earlier?
Except for Strelkov bragged ON TWITTER that they’d taken a plane down when he still thought it was Ukrainian Air Force transport
Somebody told him a civilian plane was reported down and he promptly deleted it... so they did it
“You do know the Russian thugs already admitted to shooting it down? Youre late with the conspiracy theory”
Thank you, KOZ
Once a commie always a commie
Anti American forever, anyway
BTW this is the BUK missile system that took the plane down... obviously Russian or Russian proxies did this- it’s not some shoulder-mounted thing, and the system has never been sold to the Ukrainians
I’m not defending anyone. I’m just making an observation.
Somebody posted a ‘Ukraine’ link at the bottom of the BUK page, but it’s dubious with dead link and no other info on web
Mark Levin played Reagan’s response to the Soviet shoot down in 1983 on his show today. How I miss having a President
WHAT A REAL PRESIDENT LOOKS LIKE:
Ronald Reagan Adresses Nation After Russians Shoot-Down Passanger Flight KAL 007
Putin’s blame shifting was absolutely Obamian!
And Levin made an excellent point- the Russians have been shooting down planes from the same location as yesterday -3 just this week- and it IS actual Russian Air Force doing it, imho...
You're supposed to wear the foil, not smoke crack with it.
Actually, Ukraine is one of about a dozen countries that SA-17 missile systems, so the Ukrainian Army does have them. And given the amount of equipment that the pro-Russian separatists have gained from capture and defection from Ukraine forces and from seizure from warehouses in eastern Ukraine, there should be no surprise that the rebels also now have Grizzly systems. But neither side stands to benefit from shooting down a passenger airliner, so the most logical explanation is that the rebels mistook the Malaysian B777 for a Ukraine Air Force transport. I believe there has been at least one recent shootdown of a UAF AN-24 over rebel territory. Cui bono?
Here’s an interesting point/2nd angle- the Ukrianians DID have some BUKs, but the rebels took ‘em...
a post on the official Twitter account of the Donetsk Peoples Republic, and later removed, claimed that the separatists earlier had seized a missile system called Buk from the Ukrainian army, capable of downing a jet at that altitude.
dnrpress: self-propelled Buk surface-to-air missile systems have been seized by the DNR from (Ukrainian) surface-to-air missile regiment A1402, said the post.
Since the Russian Air Force seems to have shot down a Ukrainian MIG three days ago, I was convinced the Russians did this but maybe it WAS their proxy force in Donetsk after all
Mac daddy will save the day with an extra wide red line.
Who was on that plane?
300 or so people died, for what?
yup, right after he’s done with the fundraiser
About as dumb as giving Obama a Nobel Peace Prize. Let me guess, we are still flying commercial routes over Iraq ? Over Syria ?
Hate to break this to the World War IIIers, but Russia has already plainly stated, they will go nuclear if they have too. So don't act surprised when you see the mushroom clouds.
Why would Russia have to go nuclear, is someone harassing Russia?
The faster this garbage kicks the bucket, the better. It's time to take the gloves off and just make the garbage have an accident once he flies somewhere outside of his mongoloid shit hole.
There is one problem with that. There is no way you can mistake a commercial target at over 30,000 feet for a cargo plane at 10,000 feet. Not possible. Visually there is a massive size difference and the altitude should have been displayed on the radar guidance system controls. And commercial planes, the ones flown by idiots, were traveling through that airspace at altitude throughout the day.
Quite a bit of the old soviet gear was built in the Ukraine. The Ukranians even kept the old Soviet nukes on their territory, at least for awhile.
Ask them. They stated it. Not me.
Is it possible that Putin provided these weapons to people who aren't as competent as you assume them to be?
You got that right.
They aren't going nuclear.
Look people, this is the start of World War III. We are already over a year into it thanks to the corrupt cronies running the US into the ground. Expect more bad. And I think they did not care what kind of plane that was. No will they in the future. Who ever shot it down. Just listen to their own words. Must have been spies then.
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