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Guest worker program could help solve immigration crisis
Watchdog.org ^ | July 18, 2014 | Eric Boehm

Posted on 07/18/2014 1:58:59 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

A soccer player given a red card must leave the game immediately without a chance to return.

But for millions of illegal immigrants in the United States who are working hard and earning an honest living, a red card could be a far more welcome sight, allowing them to remain in the country — temporarily — without fear of arrest and deportation.That’s the idea behind an effort to revamp America’s broken guest worker program, which would grant literal red cards — to differentiate from the “green card” given to immigrants with permanent residency status — to immigrants who enter the country legally and want to stay for a limited period while working to pay their own way.

“It’s not citizenship or a ‘path to citizenship.’ But you should be able to come into the country if you want to work and fill jobs,” said Helen Krieble, a businesswoman and immigration activist who runs the Vernon K. Krieble Foundation, a nonprofit working to improve America’s immigration laws.

To get a “red card,” migrant workers would have to pass a criminal background check and have an employer waiting for them when they crossed the border. Providing a channel for legal, short-term immigration for those who want to take seasonal jobs — mostly on American farms – would, Krieble believes, stem the flow of illegal immigrants.

She says the only people who would still try to cross the border illegally would be those with criminal histories or other illegal goals — drug smuggling or human trafficking, for example. The move would allow the U.S. Border Patrol to focus on stopping the real threats to public safety.

(Excerpt) Read more at watchdog.org ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration
But for millions of illegal immigrants in the United States who are working hard and earning an honest living,how is an honest living possible if it takes being dishonest to get this employment that by any means is an honest living ? ??

She says the only people who would still try to cross the border illegally would be those with criminal histories or other illegal goals.This woman lives in the same world Harry Reid lives in as in wishful thinking

1 posted on 07/18/2014 1:58:59 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

We already have temporary worker programs.

Enforce the law!


2 posted on 07/18/2014 2:03:26 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: moonshinner_09

I suggest that a Guest Criminal Program be started. The US just don’t have enough skilled criminals to commit all the crime.

More criminals means jobs more ... police, jailers,lawyers, judges, parole offices and it means more money and jobs in infrastructure growth in the building of new courthouses, jails and prison.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 2:03:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: moonshinner_09

Helen is a moron. Like most liberals, she does not have the mental ability to think ahead to see the consequence of her bright ideas. You do this crap and our so called “courts” will shoot down EVERYTHING in the bill until each illegal alien is allowed to file a lawsuit against their employer, be allowed to vote and be allowed to live on the backs of the taxpayers. Why do you think so many illegal aliens are demanding that the U.S. taxpayers pay for them to become “lawyers”? It’s all about the dinero, idiot!


4 posted on 07/18/2014 2:05:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: moonshinner_09

It just never ends.

SECURE THE BORDER NOW!


5 posted on 07/18/2014 2:21:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I could accept this with two additions.

First: Guest worker status doesn’t start until we’ve had 5 straight years of fewer than NNN new illegal immigrants/year (20,000, 10,000, 5000, 1000?). And if we ever have a year with over NNN new illegals all guest worker cards are revoked until we have another 5 “good” years. NNN may start out high (20,000, not as high as 200,000) but should be decreased over the next 10 years if it starts high. If dems really care about existing illegals, they’ll start fighting to spend money on border security with this condition (it’s the only way for the illegals to become legal). And existing illegals should join the fight to keep new ones out as if their future depends on it (because their future does depend on it).

Second: guest worker status doesn’t help family members come in illegally and get legal status. Family members will need to wait in the same “legal immigrant” line that everyone else uses. If parents and kids, or spouses want to be together they can do that in their home country. And no other relationship is even worth looking at.

I’d love to see some other conditions but I think with these two the other concerns will take care of themselves.

I’d like to see another solution but I don’t think anything other than legal status has a chance of getting far. And republicans could get a lot of help on the border if they passed “legal status in 5 years”.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 2:32:56 PM PDT by LostPassword
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To: moonshinner_09
But for millions of illegal immigrants in the United States who are working hard and earning an honest living

It is illegal for an illegal alien to work in this country and it is illegal to hire them.

7 posted on 07/18/2014 2:37:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: moonshinner_09

until we can fix our employment problems, we shouldn’t be issuing any ‘red cards’ to anyone:

In June, the... number of unemployed persons decreased by 325,000 to 9.5 million.

The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) declined by 293,000 in June to 3.1 million

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) increased by 275,000 in June to 7.5 million

In June, 2.0 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force... These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.

In June, employment growth was widespread, led by gains in professional and business services, retail trade, food services and drinking places, and health care. [i.e., all low-paying service jobs]

In June, employment within the industry increased in management and technical consulting services (+8,000), architectural and engineering services (+7,000), and computer systems design and related services (+7,000). Employment continued to trend up in temporary help services.

Employment changed little over the month in other major industries, including mining and logging, construction, information, and government.

In June, the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was 34.5 hours for the fourth straight month.

In June, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose by 6 cents to $24.45, following a 6-cent increase in May. Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings have risen by 2.0 percent. In June, average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees increased by 4 cents to $20.58. [where??!!] (See tables B-3 and B-8.)

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm


8 posted on 07/18/2014 2:40:24 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: moonshinner_09

I am really confused, we already have a legal way for non-citizens to come here to work. In fact I think there is more than one way- I know people who have had legal workers from other countries for years and I know agriculture businesses that need seasonal workers can sign up to get workers. I know farmers that do it that way and have for years and do not hire illegals. I also know farmers that hire illegals and claim they cannot get legal workers and I have never understood that.

What I want is for our immigration laws to be enforced, absolutely enforced. If we enforce them for a period of time and get a grip on the border we might find some of our immigration laws need to be changed for one reason or another. The thing is we just need to enforce the laws we have and secure the border and then see what we have.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 2:49:45 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I have been wondering for a while why legal immigrants, that had to follow our immigration laws, pay for their own attorney if they pursued citizenship, etc. don’t sue the government for the unequal treatment they get vs what the illegals get away with.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 2:52:53 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: moonshinner_09

Just received a response from Pete Olson, Representative of the 22nd District of Texas. He states,

“While we are limited in what we can do in the House to rein in this imperial presidency, until we elect a new Senate, we will continue to use the tools we do have to limit our President’s power and hold him accountable. Rest assured that I will carefully review all immigration bills that come before Congress and keep your views in mind if any come to the House floor for a vote.”

Same response went to three of my friends who also sent him an email re the flood of illegals coming across the border. So we wait until January for any relief? And what happens when we still have a Democrat majority in the Senate?

At least the response Pete’s clerk prepared addressed the subject matter of my email. When I raised the issue of illegal immigration in an email to John Cornyn the response from his office dealt with “my concern about lack of legislation designed to increase employment opportunities”.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 2:53:03 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: moonshinner_09
to differentiate from the “green card” given to immigrants with permanent residency status

As a matter of fact they have not been green for over 30 years. They are blue.

12 posted on 07/18/2014 2:53:30 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: moonshinner_09

we do not need a new program.

The premise that we have too few workers is retarded


13 posted on 07/18/2014 2:54:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Kartographer

Well we already have tons of undocumented criminals coming in so I guess we would need a Guest Criminal Program for them if we need a Guest Worker Program.

At this point I am convinced we have more criminals coming in illegally by far since it has been years since we or anyone else we know has had an illegal ask any of us for a job.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 2:59:04 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: GeronL
The premise that we have too few workers is retarded

We have too few workers who are willing to work for crap wages under poor conditions. Especially when a person can get "disability" instead.

15 posted on 07/18/2014 3:57:30 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Because the pro-amnesty crowd is the ones lowering those wages


16 posted on 07/18/2014 4:08:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: LostPassword
I could accept this with two additions.

First: Guest worker status doesn’t start until we’ve had 5 straight years of fewer than NNN new illegal immigrants/year (20,000, 10,000, 5000, 1000?). And if we ever have a year with over NNN new illegals all guest worker cards are revoked until we have another 5 “good” years.

Your acceptance means amnesty. You are allowing the lawbreakers to stay and work here, which is amnesty. So what happens during those first five years in terms of enforcing our immigration laws, including deportation?

If dems really care about existing illegals, they’ll start fighting to spend money on border security with this condition (it’s the only way for the illegals to become legal). And existing illegals should join the fight to keep new ones out as if their future depends on it (because their future does depend on it).

This is amnesty and how do you sort out the new illegals from the old illegals?

Second: guest worker status doesn’t help family members come in illegally and get legal status. Family members will need to wait in the same “legal immigrant” line that everyone else uses.

Legal immigrants can sponsor their spouses and children to join them. There is no cap or annual limit on the number of nuclear family member you can sponsor and they are usually allowed to join the spouse in very short order. That is the line you want the lawbreakers to use?

I’d like to see another solution but I don’t think anything other than legal status has a chance of getting far. And republicans could get a lot of help on the border if they passed “legal status in 5 years”.

You make no sense. What happens during those five years in terms of enforcement of our immigration laws as they apply to the lawbreakers? What happens to our existing guest worker programs that permit 640,000 guest workers to enter annually?

17 posted on 07/18/2014 5:05:54 PM PDT by kabar
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