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California May Breakup into Six Different States (Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV190n3TYc8 ^ | July 14, 2014 9:33pm EDT Reuters | By Jennifer Chaussee, Reuters San Francisco; comments by Mark Dice

Posted on 07/21/2014 10:44:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

There are enough signatures that have been to place on the ballot to break California up into six States.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: breakup; california

1 posted on 07/21/2014 10:44:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Will never happen. Zero’s Fedzilla is busy erasing borders between countries AND states.


2 posted on 07/21/2014 10:47:43 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Article he refers to:

Campaign to break California into six states submits signatures
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-usa-california-breakup-idUSKBN0FL04L20140716

Related:
Divided they stand? Billionaire in push to carve up California into six states
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3180512/posts

Oh my: California to really vote on whether to split into six states
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3180777/posts

Silicon Valley is one step closer to being its own state. No, really.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3180943/posts


3 posted on 07/21/2014 10:47:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The liberal areas will never allow this. They need conservative money


4 posted on 07/21/2014 10:50:19 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Don’t piss the people off.... they will react


5 posted on 07/21/2014 10:56:29 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Fai Mao

I would suggest this. A number of regions in California know that they are being unfairly taxed, with significant amounts of their California-state-taxed funds going to either LA or San Francisco. The “gift” money isn’t coming back to where it started.

If you ask anyone in LA....they will vote against the measure...probably 80-20 vote, my humble guess. However, beyond LA...it’s going to be closer to 50-50. The more rural areas will be higher with 60-40 voting in favor of a break-up.

Toss in the fact that the state legislature is unable to come up with a workable budget year after year, and more taxation on the table for future years....there’s a problem here. Add the fact that various companies in urban areas of California are looking at ways that they can relocate because of regulation going on....and you’ve got a potential mess brewing.

Let’s say it passes with a 55-45 win. Then, what? Will the state legislature and governor just ignore the vote and keep going? The odds are yes, with someone then tossing a court challenge to the legislature, which I think is what the intent of this whole thing will go to. Imagine some state supreme court judges having to invent a method to keeping the state as one, or having to agree that the vote has legit purposes.


6 posted on 07/21/2014 11:02:47 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Jack Hydrazine

we should be so lucky.


7 posted on 07/21/2014 11:11:44 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: pepsionice

Actually it is not about tax money going to LA and San Francisco. It is about water going to LA and San Francisco. If this passes the new state in the Sierra would sell/give water to the conservative farmers in the Central Valley, but charge LA and San Francisco through the nose for any leftovers. That’s what the coastal libs will try to stop.


8 posted on 07/21/2014 11:12:18 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: Jack Hydrazine

12 US Senators?

I don’t think so.


9 posted on 07/21/2014 11:13:21 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Not gonna happen.

I’m out quite a bit and no one hit me up for this stupid idea.


10 posted on 07/21/2014 11:13:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: pepsionice

I think the President and Congress have to approve it too


11 posted on 07/21/2014 11:16:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I think only congress has to approve it.


12 posted on 07/21/2014 11:24:53 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Nuts! This is just the first step, one in which socialist will end up holding all our port cities. Look, we will NEVER cede a single square inch of American territory to the socialists. Are you kidding me? What have all our fallen heroes died for? That we should surrender half of America to its enemies?

Let dyed-in-the-wool socialists go elsewhere. If Russia demanded half of America, would we give it to them without a fight? Now, no more of this nonsense. We are going to take America back, NOT give away any of it, and expel the damned communists. Period.


13 posted on 07/21/2014 11:25:59 PM PDT by LibWhacker (A New WPA: Hire blacks to surround illegal enclaves and round up job-stealing illegal aliens)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Never happen.

California has 50 some odd electoral votes that go Democrat every single election cycle.

They’re not giving that up.


14 posted on 07/21/2014 11:28:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: GeronL

The fact that they wrote in this waiver for Texas (which still stands today for Texas to possibly break-up)....has never been challenged in court as to why one state gets that waiver, and none of the other forty-nine will be given that chance.

Under the right circumstance....I could see a challenge, and some Supreme Court judges grinning because they get to go back 1850s law, and debate a screwed-up waiver that got thrown into the mix and accepted for over a century.

Would the Senate even want to debate this? McCain, I would imagine would laugh and say “no-way”. Same for most of the Democratic leadership. The Supremes might not laugh that much and say that the Texas waiver opens the door for this split.


15 posted on 07/21/2014 11:31:50 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What’s the point? What are the political affiliations of these people who signed the petition? What’s the end game here? CA is horrible enough? Who would want 6 of it?


16 posted on 07/21/2014 11:35:57 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (You cannot protect a child from child abuse by aborting it. Abortion *is* child abuse.)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Oops. *CA is horrible enough.


17 posted on 07/21/2014 11:37:07 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (You cannot protect a child from child abuse by aborting it. Abortion *is* child abuse.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

If DC becomes its own state and California becomes. 6 states we’ll have 56 states; just one shy of the 57 he always refers to


18 posted on 07/22/2014 12:17:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I would move back to cali in a heartbeat if it wasn’t such a socialist basketcase.


19 posted on 07/22/2014 12:20:19 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Politicalkiddo

There are plenty of solid red counties here, they’re just not as populated as the deep blue counties, therefore receive little voice when the state is taken as a whole. Optimisitically this would give voice to the red counties, and in effect would remove one blue state from the union, replacing it with 3 blue, 2 red and a purple (Sens. -2 D, +7 D/+5 R, or a slight % edge to R for the whole of the Senate.) That being said, I don’t necessarily have a favorable opinion of this move, six parts may be too many and like you, I have to wonder about the politics, the motive, of the people behind this push.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 12:32:14 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson

Hasn’t this proposal popped up in the past?

Only with a sub-divide into 3 states.

Lower CA, split just above LA

Central CA, up to Sacramento

Northern CA Sacramento up to OR

I seem to remember none of the northern two wanted the San Fran wierdos..:^)


21 posted on 07/22/2014 12:58:37 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: John Robinson

Yes, it is possible that some of the new ‘states’ could be conservative. However, with a Democrat controlled state government, I have a feeling that the drawing of these new states would be very circuitous, taking maximum advantage of demographics.

However, I don’t think it’s going to happen - even get close to it. It’s just another dream like DC becoming a state. They (Democrats) just don’t have the numbers throughout the rest of the states to assure statehood.

Lastly, and most importantly, I think the last thing any producing American wants is another 5 states with 10 more Senators added to the 100 fools we have now (at least 90% of them, anyway).


22 posted on 07/22/2014 1:02:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Does no one understand the Constitution anymore? For this to happen, the state legislature must approve it (the people can vote all they want, it means nothing). Then Congress has to agree to it also. Without all that, it will never happen. And I have absolutely no doubt that Congress won’t agree to giving California 6 times as many senators as it now has.


23 posted on 07/22/2014 2:17:18 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss
Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

24 posted on 07/22/2014 2:22:32 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Jack Hydrazine

So Baraq was ahead if his time with 57 states.


25 posted on 07/22/2014 4:06:14 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Truth is the enemy of our dysfunctional government.)
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To: Fai Mao

See Post 4.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 4:13:00 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: az_gila
There has been such discussion for decades. I'm a die-hard proponent of local governance, especially in the case of California, it's just too massive and complex to effectively govern from Sacramento. I think a better solution would be to partition the state into aggregate counties and incrementally delegate much of Sacramento's authority to these aggregates, like a smaller version of the U.S., the six-state proposal could serve as a template. This would have the benefit of being non-disruptive at the Federal level (still just two Senators) and enable a smooth transition to independent Statehood should that be desired (by the nation.) Put it on a multi-decade time table and the whole thing could be done with ample time to undo inevitable screw-ups.
27 posted on 07/22/2014 4:13:05 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A different level of gerrymandering?


28 posted on 07/22/2014 4:13:18 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Gaffer

Yeah. I’ve been meaning to analyze data for the proposed states, but it would be next to pointless at this time since the crayons would be in the hands of politicians, and they’ll do what they’ll do to ensure party control. There’s probably no way the state leg. would be fair in drawing up a map without considerable input from the affected people, and it’s unlikely that even if asked the pols (their power brokers) would listen to the people — and thus why the people (some) want independent statehood. Catch-22.


29 posted on 07/22/2014 4:29:33 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Gaffer

Oh ya, last point. The issue is the Senate is malformed, it’s purpose was to represent the institutions of the independent states, not the elitist popularity contest it has become since the 17th. The Senate doesn’t represent the people! Yet its members are now directly beholden to the people, thus we have the pandering, robbery of the treasury to disemenate among the mob in exchange for another 6-year ride at the reins. So yeah, given the state of things, another 10 Senators is about the last thing any responsible person would want.


30 posted on 07/22/2014 4:41:16 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Pearls Before Swine

To whom?


31 posted on 07/22/2014 5:24:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Wisconsin with 72 counties will break into 72 states. /s


32 posted on 07/22/2014 10:45:11 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldnÂ’t make any sense at all." -- Pres. Reagan)
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