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"Absent legitimacy it's a sprint to whatever irreducible power center presents itself."
The Woodpile Report ^ | 7/22/2014 | Uncle Remus

Posted on 07/23/2014 7:31:57 PM PDT by JoanVarga

We're no longer a nation of laws, we're a nation of men, specifically those men who were the first to figure out legitimacy is no longer a serious constraint, and there are no other constraints.

Absent legitimacy it's a sprint to whatever irreducible power center presents itself. As in any other no-rules fight, the violent prevail over the peaceful and the homicidal prevail over the violent. This isn't mere looting, major assets, even national assets, are in play. Mexico for example, one of the most violent countries on earth, is conquering—not merging with, conquering—the southwestern US. National borders are always under control, the only question is by whom, and events are answering that question. We forfeited this essential element of sovereignty by getting wrapped around our own prissy little axle while Mexico and its domestic enablers adapted.

The middle class is the designated prey in all this. This is unwise. Middle class America is no less violent than any other people. They seem passive because they're results oriented. They rise not out of blood frenzy but to solve the otherwise insoluble. Their methods of choice are good will, cooperation, forbearance, negotiation and finally, appeasement, roughly in that order. Only when these fail to end the abuse do they revert to blowback. And they do so irretrievably. Once the course is set and the outcome defined, doubt is put aside. The middle class is known, condemned actually, for carrying out violence with the efficiency of an industrial project where bloody destruction at any scale is not only in play, it's a metric. Remorse is left for the next generation, they'll have the leisure for it. We'd like to believe this is merely dark speculation. History says it isn't.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: adaptability; complexity; education
"When good people arrive at the bottom they'll find it already populated with masters of lawlessness and violence by both inclination and long experience."
1 posted on 07/23/2014 7:31:58 PM PDT by JoanVarga
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To: JoanVarga

“Complex societies get so stupefying unintelligible, so convoluted and self-contradicting as to be the direct equivalent of lawlessness. “Government by enabling act” is getting to be so obvious even the media is noticing:”


2 posted on 07/23/2014 7:33:35 PM PDT by JoanVarga (Primordial Slack)
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To: JoanVarga

Making ‘laws’ to cover for every lie, every theft, every sinful act is how the Koran got the way it is.

Our ‘government’ is becoming Islam.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 8:17:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: JoanVarga

Self ping


4 posted on 07/23/2014 8:18:30 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: JoanVarga
"Absent legitimacy it's a sprint to whatever irreducible power center presents itself."

Isn't that the liberal/democrat motto ?

5 posted on 07/23/2014 8:18:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

If nothing is absolute, then nothing is ultimately legitimate.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 8:21:10 PM PDT by JoanVarga (Primordial Slack)
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To: JoanVarga

Wonderful article, great post, thanks!


7 posted on 07/23/2014 9:30:34 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: JoanVarga

Good article and interesting site. Add my thanks for the posting.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 10:01:14 PM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: JoanVarga

i dispute the premise of the article “The middle class is known, condemned actually, for carrying out violence with the efficiency of an industrial project where bloody destruction at any scale is not only in play, it’s a metric. Remorse is left for the next generation, they’ll have the leisure for it. We’d like to believe this is merely dark speculation. History says it isn’t”. This may no longer be the case. Societies fail when the engine quits! i think the engine has been removed.


9 posted on 07/23/2014 10:19:43 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Weirdad

One thing I’ve always appreciated about Freepers: they actually read the article at the link! Tweepers? Not so much.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 3:33:36 AM PDT by JoanVarga (Primordial Slack)
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To: JoanVarga

I should have said more precisely that if there is no idea that can be pointed to as “absolute”, no moral Rule to rule, then there can be no pretense to legitimacy by any agency of law or rule.

When the considerable numbers of the middle class figure out that the pretense to legitimacy is held by physical force alone, and no other moral constraint, then the chains come off, it’s going to be a helluva time to be alive.


11 posted on 07/24/2014 3:39:57 AM PDT by JoanVarga (Primordial Slack)
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You don’t seem to “dispute” it one bit. :)

I’ll add that the only difference between failed and removed would be the efficiency of rebuilding something without all the detritus in the way.


12 posted on 07/24/2014 3:42:51 AM PDT by JoanVarga (Primordial Slack)
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