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Are Teachers Underpaid? Let’s Find Out
The Federalist ^ | July 24, 2014 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 07/24/2014 7:09:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 07/24/2014 7:09:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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In Montgomery County Maryland, they make 100K plus after 20 years for sure. They start out around 45K but it is increased every year.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 7:11:13 PM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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I’d say those teacher salary numbers are fake.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 7:13:48 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Same in Wisconsin. It isn’t quite the gravy train it was before Scott Walker, but the money is quite good and the benefits are still better than the private sector.

I have friends who are retired teachers. They live on a golf course and have a vacation home next to a former solicitor general of the United States.

FWIW, I don’t make 45k after nearly 20 years in the news media. I chose poorly.


4 posted on 07/24/2014 7:16:09 PM PDT by MediaMole
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>>Journalists, who have vital job of protecting American democracy, earned 24 percent less.

How can anyone take a story seriously that says that?


5 posted on 07/24/2014 7:17:50 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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When I was a pup, teachers got paid only for the 9-10 months they worked. Almost all of them had summer jobs which, in most cases, made them better teachers.

Some of them even started businesses. My 5th grade science teacher was one of the founders of Swanson`s Vitamins, a highly reputable and successful company.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 7:18:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To the headline - NO NO NO!!!!


7 posted on 07/24/2014 7:20:31 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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They "work" less than eight months each year when you consider snow days, holidays and "teacher training" (i.e., free danish and coffee and sitting for a few hours). Oh...having "lived" in monkey county for 30+ years, I second your comments. Teachers are the biggest whiners about their pay and benefits. Maryland THE Freak state. Escape while you can..
8 posted on 07/24/2014 7:20:55 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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“Teachers are underpaid.”

Absolute BS...
I’m married to one.
Not including extra’s, she makes north of $60 per hour with 20 years in.

In Chicago, 90K plus isn’t unusual, BEFORE BENNIES.
For 185 6.5 hour days.
More if you have a master’s, or a doctorate.


9 posted on 07/24/2014 7:22:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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A while back I went on an Earthwatch expedition. You get to participate in a research expedition, as a paying member, in my case my share was a few grand, a little more for the right gear and of course some new lenses for the camera, and plane tickets.

Four members of the expedition were teachers on a grant- they paid nothing in return for giving a one-hour lecture when they got back to school. The grant included funding for camera equipment and airfare.

So while their salaries may have been lower than mine, I had to pay and they rode free, boosting their apparent salaries by three or four thousand.

http://earthwatch.org/ is a good outfit that can get you into some very interesting places, like on a riverboat in the Amazon looking for pink freshwater dolphins.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:01 PM PDT by DBrow
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Teachers, people who decided to stay in school forever and not go out in the real world to make a living.

Working people, you don't perform your job well, you're fired.
Teachers, you don't perform your job well, so what.

11 posted on 07/24/2014 7:28:10 PM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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My dad taught in Montgomery County High Schools over 40 yrs ago and never once complained about the pay. He always felt he was well paid and loved teaching. He raised 4 kids and had a wife that was a homemaker. He moved us away from that area into PA and would travel 1.5 hrs each way for his job but he was always grateful and never complained. I am just amazed how teachers making $65,000 per year for 180 day act like they are underpaid


12 posted on 07/24/2014 7:28:10 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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I’ve dated teachers in the past and my sister is a special education teacher. They get a lot of freebies like that and many discounts on homes, mortgages, car loans and many other things.


13 posted on 07/24/2014 7:32:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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That was thrown in their as red meat for the leftists, the author probably didn’t mean it.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 7:34:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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YES. They are not underpaid. Teachers don’t have to compete with each other. Schools don’t have to compete for talent. Teachers can rarely be fired. This is a recipe for lousy unmotivated teachers. Are there good teachers? Certainly. But are the underpaid? Not at all. With their benefits and part time job they are paid a lot.


15 posted on 07/24/2014 7:37:31 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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And teaching isn’t the first step towards sainthood.

I teach middle school, and this guy has no idea what it's like to spend all day with attitudinal, hormonal 12-13 year olds, in batches of 28-39, depending on the class. I've done it for 10 years and I feel like Job.

That said, I'm earning about $61,000 (now, started much lower) and I certainly don't feel like I'm starving. Cost of living in Los Angeles is high, but I'm comfortable enough. I figure if you count only the hours I spend with the kids, I'm getting about $2.50 per hour, per kid.

I do think baby-sitters and day-care workers get more, nowadays, and I certainly work more than just 5 hours a day (planning, grading, meetings, fighting with copier machine, cleaning and decorating room and bulletin boards in the hallway)... but it's rather a fun job sometimes, so I don't complain much about the pay.

THAT SAID... if I got $3 per kid, per hour, I'd get about $74,250 just for the time with them. And if I got paid for the... say... 2 extra hours I work per day (one is my conference period, one after work) say I got... $7 per hour for that.... that'd be around another $2310 per year. I'd get around $76,560 per year.

16 posted on 07/24/2014 7:51:15 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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I had a teacher whine to me about what she earned, so I told her what I made as a degreed analytical chemist with 3 decades experience in industry, and she shut up.

Teachers think everyone else is making 6 figures and driving a Lexus. They do very well for their level of education.
17 posted on 07/24/2014 9:06:29 PM PDT by Nepeta
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Did I miss the part about being forced to be a teacher? If they don’t like the pay, go find some other way to be useful that pays better.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 9:18:49 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Here the average teacher makes $65,000 a year. After 12 years on the job they make $90,000. My retired cousin’s pension from teaching, coaching, driver’s ed, etc., is over $100,000 a year.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 9:32:56 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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“They do very well for their level of education.”

That’s the part many seem to forget about. “Education” degrees are some of the least demanding in all of academe, and the SAT scores of Ed-track students reflect that. Particularly in light of that, teachers get paid quite well.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 11:09:18 PM PDT by Little Pig
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