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Boy Scout held at gunpoint at Canadian border
WDTPRS ^ | 7/28/2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 07/28/2014 3:57:31 AM PDT by markomalley

Does this sound right to you at all?  It sounds almost like a parody story, something from The Onion.  But… it isn’t.

From Todd Starnes:

Troop leader: Customs and Border agent held Boy Scout at gunpoint

A Boy Scout troop from the nation’s heartland is demanding answers and a U.S. senator is expressing outrage after a group of scouts was detained by U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents, with one child allegedly held at gunpoint.

Jim Fox, the leader of the Mid-Iowa Boy Scout Troop 111, said the incident occurred earlier this month at a checkpoint along the Alaska – Canada border. The scouts and their leaders were on a 21-day trek from Iowa to Alaska – a trip that had been three years in the planning.

As their vans were moving through a checkpoint into the United States, one of the scouts snapped a photograph. [Imagine that!] Agents stopped the van and ordered all the passengers to get out. They told the underage photographer that he had committed a federal crime. It was unclear which agency with the Department of Homeland Security’s CBP agency was involved in the incident.

“The agent immediately confiscated his camera, informed him he would be arrested, fined possibly $10,000 and ten years in prison,” Fox told Des Moines television station KCCI.

During the search, one of the scouts tried to retrieve a bag from the roof carrier. When he turned around, Fox said an agent had a loaded pistol pointed at the child.

“He heard a snap of the holster, turns around, and here’s this agent, both hands on a loaded pistol, pointing at the young man’s head,” Fox told the television station.

The scoutmaster wrote a detailed account of the incident on his Facebook page. He said he tried to watch the agents search the van but was ordered to return to his vehicle. An agent followed him and told the youngsters “that the next one to leave the van would be handcuffed and detained.”

“The agent in charge informed me of the potential charges against (the) scout and informed me it is a violation of federal law for any American to take a picture of a federal agent or any federal building,” Fox wrote. [HUH?  Does anyone know anything about that?]

Fox said he and another member of the troop were interrogated by agents – forced to answer questions about their background.

They also wanted to know why the Boy Scouts were hauling “excessive amounts of lighters, matches and knives,” Fox said. After a lengthy delay, the Scouts were released without any charges being filed.  [Why indeed would Boy Scouts heading to Alaska have lighters, matches and knives?  It boggles.  The next thing you know they will also have tents, rope and back packs.  Then?  Who knows?  Compasses, for God's sake!]

“The boys were unnecessarily frightened and intimidated,” [D'ya THINK?] Fox wrote. “When do we Americans decide enough is enough? The TSA and border guards are a valuable asset to the safety of this country, but to have such Gestapo tactics against a teenage scout is uncalled for.”

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, agrees.

“It’s outrageous that a border patrol agent would point a gun at a boy scout just for taking a picture,” he told the television station. “It just doesn’t make sense.”

The senator’s office said they are looking into the matter.

[...]



TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: border; boyscout; boyscouts; canada; canadianborder

1 posted on 07/28/2014 3:57:31 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

They need to file suit against that agent (personally) for false arrest and reckless endangerment. NO need to point a gun at a child.


2 posted on 07/28/2014 4:00:33 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: markomalley

In the absence of a Koran, or a bomb, or an incurable
infectious disease to be spread to one of Obama’s 57 states,
all Americans are now suspect and are being detained,
audited, recorded, and followed.

ONLY terrorists are allowed to continue, per the
plan devised by the treasonous Congress and their
Moslem King.


3 posted on 07/28/2014 4:01:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: markomalley

The”Good News”is we are no longer heading in the direction of becoming a”Police-State”!As”Pogo”so brilliantly observed:”We Have Met The Enemy And He Is US”!!!!”Are We There Yet?Yup,We Are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 07/28/2014 4:01:37 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: markomalley

The next time you want to take a Scout troop across the border, just put a big “MS-13” sign on the van. CBP will wave you right through, no questions asked.

/s

(maybe)


5 posted on 07/28/2014 4:04:51 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "Our Emperor may have no clothes, but doesn't he have a wonderful tan" - MSM)
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To: markomalley

it appears you need to fail an IQ test to work for the federal government


6 posted on 07/28/2014 4:07:44 AM PDT by wny
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To: markomalley

>>Does this sound right to you at all?

No.


7 posted on 07/28/2014 4:21:13 AM PDT by expat1000 ("If you're explaining, you're losing." Ronald Reagan)
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To: expat1000

This will be an everyday occurrence here in the lower 48 very soon.


8 posted on 07/28/2014 4:26:57 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: markomalley

One of these stories where I’d like to hear both sides...


9 posted on 07/28/2014 4:37:49 AM PDT by BobL
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To: wny
it appears you need to fail an IQ test to work for the federal government

And be hired per affirmative action and support Obama. I would like to know the ethnicity of the Customs agent to prove or disprove this hypothesis. Since the agent is a Federal employee, the supporting Obama is at least a 75% chance.

10 posted on 07/28/2014 4:43:32 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: markomalley

They should have claimed to be MS-13.


11 posted on 07/28/2014 4:44:06 AM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: wny
“The agent in charge informed me of the potential charges against (the) scout and informed me it is a violation of federal law for any American to take a picture of a federal agent or any federal building,” Fox wrote. [HUH? Does anyone know anything about that?]

When you insult the king's men, you insult the king. < / sarcasm >

12 posted on 07/28/2014 4:46:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: BobL

More here:

Holiday Memories You’ll Cherish Forever

by Mark Steyn • Jul 25, 2014 at 11:35 pm

http://www.steynonline.com/6487/holiday-memories-youll-cherish-forever


13 posted on 07/28/2014 4:59:58 AM PDT by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: markomalley
another article indicated the BP's reviewed tapes and claim no pistol was drawn

Im doubtful

14 posted on 07/28/2014 5:12:06 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: markomalley

we have been reading this story now on a daily basis for how many days???


15 posted on 07/28/2014 5:15:04 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: John O

If only our country was so serious.....


16 posted on 07/28/2014 5:19:37 AM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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To: Revelation 911
another article indicated the BP's reviewed tapes and claim no pistol was drawn Im doubtful

From a related Fox News article on the incident...

"In cases like this, the quickest way to determine who is being truthful is to look at the video. So I emailed U.S. Customs and Border Protection and officially requested a copy of the video.
My request was denied.
I also asked for a copy of the statute that criminalizes Photography 101. I’ve yet to receive a reply."
This sounds so very IRS-ish. Deny everything. Deny the event occurred. Deny any tape exists. Destroy any evidence.
17 posted on 07/28/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: markomalley

In old America, we were free to photograph anything we wanted.


18 posted on 07/28/2014 5:27:40 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: wny

Last night on John Stossel’s show he had a segment on the Border Patrol’s bizarre aggressive tactics toward citizens.

Then had had a segment on the militarized SWAT police, that are conducting over a hundred raids a day across America.

Give a JBT an inch and they’ll take a mile.


19 posted on 07/28/2014 5:35:10 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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20 posted on 07/28/2014 5:50:01 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: markomalley
While US Boy Scouts are harassed by federal agents at the border disease ridden illegal aliens and terrorists invade American with impunity, nay, they are aided and abetted by a lawless Obama administration.
This nation is upside down.
21 posted on 07/28/2014 6:06:06 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: markomalley

This sounds more like a TSA story than a Border Patrol story.


22 posted on 07/28/2014 6:12:10 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: markomalley

Cross linking some other threads on the topic if anyone is interested in the comments thereon:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3185646/posts
Iowan Boy Scouts Allegedly Harassed by Border Patrol at the Canadian Border into Alaska

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3185297/posts
Troop leader: Customs and Border agent held Boy Scout at gunpoint ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184004/posts
Border official points gun at Boy Scout ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183576/posts
Border official points gun at Boy Scout ^


23 posted on 07/28/2014 6:19:49 AM PDT by deport
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To: markomalley
Photography is not a crime. Agents of the feral government have no civil right to not be photographed.

They tell us that you have nothing to fear of their total surveillance state if you have nothing to hide.

They must have a lot to hide.

24 posted on 07/28/2014 6:47:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: markomalley

Wow. We appear to be closer to a national meltdown than I dared believe. The police-state attitudes are something straight out of the Soviet Union. “Pictures are forbidden, Comrade!”


25 posted on 07/28/2014 8:31:59 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: markomalley

The police state is here.

30 years ago, I remember laughing at the tyranny of Banana Republics where it was illegal to photograph the guards or buildings. And now it is here.

Tyranny and oppression are here.


26 posted on 07/28/2014 9:37:49 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: BinaryBoy
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"Badges? We don't need no steenkin' Merit Badges".

27 posted on 07/28/2014 10:44:34 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: markomalley

I was surprised to hear this since initially I thought it was the Canadian customs agents that had done this but then it wasn’t too long ago they were unarmed (I don’t even know if they are armed now) so then having it turn out to be the US Customs gang made more sense if any sense about this incident can be found.


28 posted on 07/28/2014 10:57:59 AM PDT by xp38
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