Skip to comments.FR Contest: Guess the number of senior VA executives who will be fired by 12/31/2014?
Posted on 07/29/2014 7:04:02 AM PDT by ken5050
Congress finally passed a bill to attempt to deal with the many problems at the VA. Included in the bill is a provision that allows the VA Secretary to fire senior executives who perform poorly or break the rules by lying or otherwise concealing problems at VA facilities. So.....
You are invited to guess the number of senior executives who will be fired between now and the end of the year, 12/31/2014.
Contest Note: The bill also provides that fired executives will be eligible for a 21 day, unpaid appeal process. Those fired, and who successfully win back their jobs on appeal, WILL NOT COUNT. Thus, you could pick, for example, 5, and 3 might win appeals. The correct number is therefore 2.
TIE BREAKER: As we are likely to have more than one correct answer, the tie breaker question is: How many rounds of golf will Obama play between now and the end of this year?
Zero. They will all be allowed to retire, or resign so they can pursue other government employment.
I expect the ones fired by previous administrations will be rehired with back pay.
Is this a trick question?
I win, I win...... I win.
Sadly we all lose.
Zero,none,nada.Do you intend to count resignations too,some may resign just to take a similar job elsewhere in government.
Zero. FedGov drones never get fired.
Mr. Ed could count high enough
97% +/- 3%
You are going to have to define “senior executive”.
There are lots of coat-holders and hangers-on stashed at the VA after they have failed at higher-priority tasks, and some of them have impressive titles.
> Zero. FedGov drones never get fired.
Unless the buck the system and become whistleblowers. Under other presidencies this would have meant fired, resigned, or retired. Under this it means “terminated” permanently.
They will all either (1) get bonuses, (2) be allowed to retire with benefits, (3) be retrained at expensive “conferences”, (4) be promoted, (5) get the Congressional Medal of Freedom, (6) transfer to another Fed department or (7) remain in place and continue murdering Vets through neglect.
It will take a few months to make the arrangements for a new position for the one who will take the fall.
Your right, zero, this goes on all too much. I have seen it at the state level. Especially at tyhe Dept. of Corrections.
Agree. 0 ultimately fired, ignoring early retires and the reinstated (or promoted).
Tiebreaker: 33 rounds of golf.
Zero is correct.
In 2013, I was a GS employee (gs13). I had my boss come up to note that the hq’s had a gs15 guy who got into serious trouble for comments he made (one can only guess it was against women)...but the hq’s was unable or unwilling to fire him. So, they were shifting him to our organization....and he was the new head of our group (formerly, our four-man group was adequately managed by myself).
I just stood there and shook my head. The guy needed roughly eighteen months to get to retirement age. They were going to assist him in getting to that. Beyond that...he was worthless, incapable of making competent decisions, and was mostly a political guy who made the bosses happy by always agreeing with them.
I drew up my walking papers and just left. I already had a military pension and waiting around for six more years to get a gs pension, in this type of environment....made no sense.
I would not allow these guys in the VA to retire or resign...I’d actually hand over evidence to state prosecution teams (not federal), and let them have a go at putting the guy into a state prison for a couple of years. It might suddenly turn all these VA managers into humble individuals.
It appears whoever wrote this headline had a problem with auto-correct.
Somehow the word “promoted” got changed to “fired”.
I would guess that eight VA executives will be promoted.
Also I predict that some clever Democrat operative will start combining fundraisers with rounds of golf, perhaps offering the opportunity to play a round of golf with the big guy for 100K. At that point Obama will never be seen at the White House again.
Since it is a government organization it is filled with bureaucrats who spend their days figuring out how to game the system for their financial advantage.
Bonus pay takes precedence over anything else because it is how they get around civil service pay-grades
And health of the patients comes AFTER money for bonuses
“I’ll go against the grain, and say: ONE.”
But, Whoopi Goldberg wants to know if that person will actually be “fired-fired”.
My guess is the opposite, they will add about 20 or so.
They will find 1 person who is 2 days from retirement and fire them.
The media will play it all up to make Obama appear to be doing something about it. All for show of course.
Tie breaker: 97.
None and any convicted of criminal wrong doing will be pardoned by Obama.
Are you kidding me? If this bill goes thru, they will hire 20% more than they have now and nothing will change.
12 new hires on top of no fires
Fired? Hell, these senior execs will now be elevated to White House senior positions for the stellar work they did at the VA.
Correct answer: However many have been critical of Barack Obama or have supported his opponents.
I can’t believe how many people have forgotten how this administration operates!
The correct answer is: As many as have been critical of Obama or have supported his opponents.
So zero, then...
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