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Jaylen Fryberg, WA School Shooter: Where Was Grace?
Charting Course ^ | 10/24/2014 | Steve Berman

Posted on 10/24/2014 6:26:09 PM PDT by lifeofgrace

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1 posted on 10/24/2014 6:26:09 PM PDT by lifeofgrace
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Quite moving. I have to conclude from this that the boy was emotionally stunted. Obviously we don’t know if he was medicated, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

The new way kids are raised in America, not just by parents, but in schools, the media, general culture, etc. is radically different from 3000 years of human history. This social engineering, this experiment, is damaging children and malforming their minds. This has NOTHING to do with guns.


2 posted on 10/24/2014 6:31:36 PM PDT by Viennacon (Obola is a muslim terrorist & his viral illegals need to be deported NOW!)
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To: lifeofgrace

I don’t care how wonderful he was..

what he did wasn’t a childish juvenile delinquent prank...

he was a murderer...

he went to the school with intention to do harm...


3 posted on 10/24/2014 6:33:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lifeofgrace

The August 20th tweet was a major slap-in-the-face clue and warning that this kid was going to blow. Who received the tweet, and did they act/report it to parents, school officials, the police and/or health officials?

These are the questions that need to be answered because a failure of someone in this chain is possibly the real cause of allowing this tragedy to happen. Not the 2nd Amendment; background gun buyer checks; right-wing extremists; etc.

It began at home and among friends/school. If those people fail, as the first warning lines of potential trouble, then the shit will hit the fans, 60,000 gun laws or not.

It is people control that is at the heart of the issue and until we begin to examine who lives in our society, and learn the triggers that set them off, we will blithely go on in our stupor of ignorance and denial.


4 posted on 10/24/2014 6:35:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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I can’t agree. That tweet wasn’t any different than the bravado a thousand kids say a thousands times over. If the school or any other “authority” had acted on it, people here would react with disgust about Big Brother, etc. And they wouldn’t necessarily be wrong.


5 posted on 10/24/2014 6:41:04 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I don’t care how wonderful he was.. what he did wasn’t a childish juvenile delinquent prank... he was a murderer... he went to the school with intention to do harm...

I never said he was wonderful. What punishment is fitting for him? Whatever it is, he already has it.
6 posted on 10/24/2014 6:43:05 PM PDT by lifeofgrace (Follow me on Twitter @lifeofgrace224)
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To: workerbee

Unfortunately a number of those tweeters carried out acts of violence and killed people.

This is one of the issues I said needed to be researched. What are some of the signs of forthcoming violence and can we recognize them in time to prevent it.


7 posted on 10/24/2014 6:53:40 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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What are some of the signs of forthcoming violence and can we recognize them in time to prevent it.

My concern is that there's no practical way to do this without creating more of a federal leviathon than we already have. Do we subject every kid who plays "cops and robbers" to interrogation? It seems to make more sense to prepare public officials (teachers, etc) with arms training to counteract "awful possibilities", than to assume every word/tweet/drawing is a threat.

8 posted on 10/24/2014 7:05:42 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: lifeofgrace

JAYLEN???? I thought that was a Girl’s name?? Wonder if he was on MEDS.


9 posted on 10/24/2014 8:24:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Looking at his picture....PONY TAIL??? OMG!! Parents are raising FREAKS!


10 posted on 10/24/2014 8:25:40 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Um, where were you in the 60’s and 70’s, I don’t care about the ponytail, how did we get to where our children are so incapable of dealing with the normal experiences of growing up without these outrageous responses? I don’t think it’s music, video games or movies, I think it’s our boys being castrated and turned into effeminate freaks that are told it’s wrong to be a man, tuff it out and keep going, be strong!


11 posted on 10/24/2014 8:51:17 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Marysville is right by Tulalip Indian Reservation. Ponytails are quite common for Native American males of all ages. Whether or not he’s Native American I am unsure of. I’d say yes based on the picture but cannot confirm.


12 posted on 10/24/2014 8:52:16 PM PDT by Render
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BINGO!!!! Does the kid have a DAD??? Or raised by a mom?? BIG difference!!!


13 posted on 10/24/2014 8:55:29 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Oh yes, he does like Native American!!!


14 posted on 10/24/2014 8:56:08 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: lifeofgrace

He could be my son, or anyone’s.

No not really. I have a son who is already a grown man. He di not shoot anyone in his school or anywhere else.


15 posted on 10/24/2014 11:03:06 PM PDT by 48th SPS (Not Republican. Not a Democrat. I am an American)
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The passion of a brokenhearted 14-year-old experiencing his first breakup

Well and now his last.
Like none of us ever got dumped before this kid.


16 posted on 10/24/2014 11:04:52 PM PDT by 48th SPS (Not Republican. Not a Democrat. I am an American)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The August 20th tweet was a major slap-in-the-face clue and warning that this kid was going to blow. Who received the tweet, and did they act/report it to parents, school officials, the police and/or health officials?


Was it? That was two months ago. In the meantime people said he was normal, and he was even homecoming king.

Should a threat be investigated? Yes! But what if they came to him, as they did to the Santa Barbara shooter, and found him perfectly “fine”? If he has seemed normal ever since, who is to know what he was planning? Also, do we know he was planning this two months ago?

It’s hard to prevent these. We still need to try.


17 posted on 10/24/2014 11:10:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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Was a very good article imho. And 14 year old boys (and girls) ARE emotionally stunted. I know I was. I was listening to a guy talk about teen’s brain development, etc. The ideas of acts and consequences haven’t developed yet.

“Ya know how you ask the kid why he did what he did and he shrugs his shoulders and says ‘I don’t know’. Well, he really doesn’t!”

I mentioned the media in another post of mine. And that might be part of it - but when I was a kid, even when I wanted to hurt someone I didn’t because I knew it was wrong.

Nowadays everything is relative, with no “truths” to be found.


18 posted on 10/25/2014 12:06:45 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I don’t care how wonderful he was.. what he did wasn’t a childish juvenile delinquent prank... he was a murderer... he went to the school with intention to do harm...

Nobody argues those points - most folks also have the capacity to have an ache in their hearts for the mental/emotional anguish he must have experienced (most of us were teenagers and can relate to the pain even though we didn't snap).

19 posted on 10/25/2014 3:30:02 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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The two incidents you describe a NOT ‘blind rage’. They were both premeditated acts.


20 posted on 10/25/2014 6:26:46 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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