Good Enemies - Part II

[Fred Nerks]

INSIDE THE KABAH

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[Yosemitest]

Try it now.

Inside the Kaaba ( 11:38 )
Published on Dec 6, 2013

http://www.answeringmuslims.com
http://abnsat.com
For centuries, people have wondered what's inside the Kaaba (Ka'ba).
This video shows what's really inside Islam's holiest site.

[Yosemitest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW6AZ38CPTQ

[Fred Nerks]

Three pillars, some verses of the koran (not shown here)stuck on the walls, some metal objects suspended from the ceiling which might be lamps, a double door, all on a platform with a urinal on one external corner?

[Fred Nerks]

That video sure has its funny moments. Idol worshippers, 360 rocks. Muhammad was a coward, he allowed the black rock to remain, and also the calligraphy on the walls at the time, which became known as the Satanic Verses. Islam hasn’t got a leg or pillar to stand on, they are brainwashed robots from birth.
But as muhammadanism is to a very large extent plagiarized from the original testament of the Hebrews and the New Testament, all you can do is point out the errors in transcription - you can’t fight muhammadanism with the very same belief systems he plagiarised.

We are here trying to understand and unravel the twisted skeins of islam, not engage in scriptural lessons. We, most of us, know Christianity. It’s mohammadanism that wants to annihilate us, just as it annihilated the Christians and Jews on the Peninsula when Muhammad came to power.

imho

[Yosemitest]

Many years ago, I read a booklet on the origins of Mohammadism, or the Origins of the Qur'an, and I've been trying to find it again.
But I haven't been able to.
It basically said the writings of the Qur'an were verbally handed down for years before they were written down, and a lot of the elders around the camel raider Mohammad died off before the Qur'an became to be. So it was not very accurate and it's authority was dubious, at best.
It was a paperback pamphlet of about 40 pages, and about 8 by 11 inches.

[Yosemitest]

It's not worth the effort to understand.
It simply needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

[Fred Nerks]

You might find much of the same information at Prophet of Doom:

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

This author pulls no punches.

[little jeremiah]

I just have a minute now - I saw that link that you posted on the other thread, and posted the whole aricle on another forum, it was GOOD!

[Fred Nerks]

I liked the way it described exactly what we get on the ‘news’ every night after the most recent mohammadan atrocity. First thing they tell us is that the dead or headless bodies have nothing to do with the religion of peace(s) and then they trot out some bearded, turbaned, mealy-mouthed cleric. It’s so predictable because it’s nothing but the same political theatre - over and over again.
They might as well be honest with us and say it straight out - shut up, stop whinging and pay your taxes.

[Fred Nerks]

BTW, I cannot find the website which provided information on the number of people it takes to run the UN.
But here’s a site that describes its functions:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/3159028.stm

[Fred Nerks]

[caww]

....”brought under the control of an imam who instructs them”....

Better said “controls them”....

Most Muslims have been under control of Imam’s pretty much from birth. The techniques they use are brainwashing, mental and often physical abuse to instill fear. Thus they are generally fearful of disobeying the Imam they are controlled by....as these men represent God to them in one fashion or another.

Recalling now that God said that Ishmaels desendents would not only be at war with all men, but each other as well. So their very nature is to rage...add Islam and the Imams brutality and these people (primarily men) have no sense of Peace within nor without.

[Yosemitest]

Two thoughts on "Uzzah":

FIRST. From Leviticus 16, "Aza′zel".

An Excerpt from THE PAGAN SOURCES OF ISLAM

AZAZIL - THE DEVIL

In the Muslim Hadith, the Devil has a certain name - Azazil.

The name does not occur in the Quran.
The name may come from Leviticus 16:8, 10, 26 - the scapegoat in Hebrew is Azazil.
From another source it means 'the demon of the desert' .

There are Apocrypha Jewish books - Enoch and Apocalypse of Abraham, that mention Azazil.
Islamic traditions - Hadiths develop their story.
Muslims associate Azazil with the fallen angels Harut and Marut.
Ibn Abbas tradition has the strongest Islamic reference developing it as Satan's name, before thenfall of Adam.

Here is Tisdall's view on it (taken from "The Sources of Islam"):

Muslims take the name Azazil from the Jews, but put the Zoroastrian story behind the name.
Muslims believe that God created Azazil, who worshipped God for a 1000 years while he was in the 7th hell.
Then he ascended a stage at a time, all the while worshipping God.
Finally, he reached the earth.
Elsewhere, Muslim tradition says he stayed 3000 years by the gate of paradise, with hostile intentions against Adam and Eve.
He was very jealous of them.

Compare the above with the Zoroastrian account:

Ahriman (Azazil) remained in the abyss, there to commit hurt and injury, and mischief and darkness.
Ormazd (God) knew of his existence and plans.
It went on like this for 3000 years.
The evil spirit was ignorant of Ormazd's existence, but eventually rising out of the pit, saw Ormazd's light.
Then Ahriman was filled withhostility and envy, he set out to destroy.

That sounds like the very nature of most Muslims (Islamists) to me.

Next comes from God's interpretation told to Daniel of Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream in Daniel 2.

"As you looked, A STONE was cut out by no human hand,
and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay,
and broke them in pieces;
then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces,
and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors;
and the wind carried them away,
so that not a trace of them could be found.
But THE STONE that struck the image became a great mountain
and filled the whole earth."

Sound familiar?

[little jeremiah]

The site:

http://alisina.org/?p=5045

For anyone who hasn’t looked at it, the article is well worth reading. A few snips:

The Dilemma of Islamic Terrorism

The author is an ex-Moslem and knows what of which he writes. Here is a comment from below the article:

First, here is what John Quincy Adams said about Mohammed:
“He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE. [emphasis in the original]”

Here is what he said about the Quaran:

“The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.”

Adams and Jefferson asked the ambassador to Tripoli, Mr. Adja, why the Muslims of the Maghrib, the “Barbary pirates” as they were known in the West, did as they did. He had no trouble answering them, as the report written by Jefferson and Adams to the Continental Congress shows:

“…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

[little jeremiah]

Caww, you might like that website Fred Nerks posted above, and I just posted the link again with a couple of snips from the comments. The author is an ex-Moslem and the whole article is excellent.

[little jeremiah]

Ragnarok-N-Roll, I realize you are very busy but I am hoping you can find time to answer this.

After seeing the incredible tangled web of Moslem organizations that are not only tolerated in the US, but fostered and promoted by our government, and with members of these jihad organizations even in government positions, I have this question.

WHY?????? Does no one in government stop this? Reverse it? I know Michelle Bachmann tried and a few other Congressmen supported her but she was denounced by the establishment Repukes. And then she didn’t run again; I wonder if she was threatened.

Is it money that motivates the moslem-enablers in our government? I realize leftists always like Moslems but surely they can’t ALL be utterly blind to the fact that in a Moslem dominated country they would be just as tortured and dead as any Christian or Jew or Hindu or any other “infidel”.

I can understand about 0v0mit or others who are actually Moslems themselves. But they would make little headway without the huge machinery of enablers in the federal government.

What do you think is the reason for this “roll over and play dead” attitude?

[Fred Nerks]

Sound familiar?

No. The nomad desert dwellers (all of them) worshipped stones. It was the stones they worshipped which became the 360 idols in the kabah which Muhammad destroyed.

Azazil, al-uzza, like Lucifer and Satan, are various cultural names for Venus. The stars at night are big and bright on the Peninsula...and the planets were gods. Venus was evil, she threw rocks, naphtha and pitch (tar) at mankind.

[Yosemitest]

Sounds like distant Muslim memories of the destruction of Sodom and Gomor′rah.