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Is Russia Arming Argentina to Enable a Grab of Falkland Islands?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12512.19.0.0/britain/russia-arming-argentina-to-enable-grab-of-falkland-islands ^ | 26 March 2015

Posted on 03/27/2015 6:52:00 AM PDT by Thistooshallpass9

Russia is preparing to lease 12 long-range, supersonic bomber jets to Argentina, a move that some in Britain fear is designed to ready Argentina to take the Falkland Islands.

Argentina has long argued that the Falklands—which it calls the Malvinas—are Argentine territory and should be controlled by Buenos Aires instead of London. The dispute escalated into war in 1982 when Argentina invaded the islands, attempting to establish sovereignty over them. The bloody 74-day conflict ended with British forces overwhelming the Argentinians and reestablishing British control of the islands.

But British defense cuts in recent years leave the Falklands more vulnerable to attack, particularly if Russia beefs up Argentina’s armaments. “It is a very live threat,” British Defense Minister Michael Fallon said March 23 concerning Moscow’s plan to equip Argentina with attack planes. “We have to respond to it.”

Former defense minister Sir Gerald Howarth said of Russia’s plan: “It is very serious indeed. [Russian President Vladimir] Putin has many problems at home and yet he is ramping up tension in the Falklands.”

Russian politicians and pro-Kremlin newspapers have long taken Argentina’s side in the Falklands dispute, routinely criticizing Britain’s “colonial occupation” of the islands. Russians sometimes refer to the Falklands as the “Crimea of the Atlantic,” a comparison the Argentine government welcomes.

“The Malvinas have always belonged to Argentina, the same way that Crimea also belonged to the Soviet Union until it was given to Ukraine,” Argentine President Cristina de Kirchner said last year after Russia annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. Kirchner was among the most vocal supporters of Russia’s grab of Crimea, and her support is now winning her tit-for-tat backing from Moscow regarding Argentina’s claim on the Falklands.

On March 22, Alexei Pushkov, the head of the Russian Duma’s committee of international affairs, tweeted:

Putin himself has made his support for Argentina’s claims clear here and here.

In a sign that the United Kingdom takes the Russo-Argentine cooperation seriously, Fallon said Britain will invest $265 million to bolster Falklands’ defenses over the next 10 years. However, a Ministry of Defense spokesman told the Express that Argentina will likely receive the bombers well before Britain does much to beef up its forces, leaving a “real window of vulnerability.”


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: argentina; bhorussia; falklands; putin
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1 posted on 03/27/2015 6:52:00 AM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Thistooshallpass9

At this point, Argentina can send a half dozen hoods from the barrio and England wouldn’t do a damn thing to stop it.

Western Civilization is just about dead.


2 posted on 03/27/2015 6:55:15 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

And what are those Russian supersonic long range bombers?


3 posted on 03/27/2015 7:01:28 AM PDT by Cossak
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To: EQAndyBuzz
At this point, Argentina can send a half dozen hoods from the barrio and England wouldn’t do a damn thing to stop it.

That's for sure. Cameron, that pantywaist Obama lick-spittle, is sure not Thatcher.

4 posted on 03/27/2015 7:03:08 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Thatcher is probably rolling around in her grave about now.


5 posted on 03/27/2015 7:03:46 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: Thistooshallpass9

I’m wondering if this is some kind of payback for our role in Ukraine’s coup. I think that ticked Putin off.


6 posted on 03/27/2015 7:04:19 AM PDT by McGruff (Boy that Ted Cruz sure is catching alot of flak.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yes, that’s true. Britain’s pride in its power is broken. It’s a sad situation.


7 posted on 03/27/2015 7:05:20 AM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
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To: Cossak

Tu-4 Bisons.


8 posted on 03/27/2015 7:05:52 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: the_individual2014

Thatcher is probably rolling around in her grave about now...

as well as President Ronald Reagan.


9 posted on 03/27/2015 7:09:31 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Bisons are not supersonic.

But it appears it is a false report anyway. (Posted 1 hour ago.):

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-denies-talks-argentina-leasing-jets-102502136.html


10 posted on 03/27/2015 7:13:36 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

“Russian politicians and pro-Kremlin newspapers have long taken Argentina’s side in the Falklands dispute, routinely criticizing Britain’s “colonial occupation” of the islands. “

you’ve got to be kidding me?

From a country with all that land, but obsessed with breaking off small parts of its neighbors?


11 posted on 03/27/2015 7:13:39 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Its only a problem because Britain considers its response must be restrained and that an invasion of the Falklands would not constitute activation of the NATO charter.

The Falklands were effectively uninhabited before the British set up camp there, so the notion of colonialism is rubbish.

The inhabitants are British, consider themselves British, and have zero desire to be Argentinian.

Britain actually invites war by leaving a small conventional force there. The only threat to the islands is Argentina. Either build up the conventional arms, which is financially draining, or pull them out totally with a simple caveat; tell Argentina that the Falklands are once and forever British and that an attack on the Falklands will result in the immediate nuclear annihilation of Argentinian military targets up to and including their ultimate headquarters in Buenos Aires.

An alternative strategy would be to reinforce the NATO charter making it perfectly clear that it covers all sovereign territories; e.g. Greenland, Falklands, Puerto Rico, the BVI, Spanish Morocco, etc.

A 19th century strategy would be an alliance with Chile, Paraguay, Brazil, and/or Uruguay, which promises huge swaths of Argentina to them in return for military support in the advent of another Falklands war.


12 posted on 03/27/2015 7:16:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9
In a sign that the United Kingdom takes the Russo-Argentine cooperation seriously, Fallon said Britain will invest $265 million to bolster Falklands’ defenses over the next 10 years.

Over 10 years? They might as well hand it over before it's taken from them.

13 posted on 03/27/2015 7:17:14 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: VanDeKoik
You’ve got to be kidding me? From a country with all that land, but obsessed with breaking off small parts of its neighbors?

How do you think Russia got so big? It's Russia's destiny to rule the world. There are two kinds of territories in the world - current Russian provinces and future Russian provinces.

14 posted on 03/27/2015 7:20:07 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Back in December, it was announced the SU-24 would be leased to Argentina. Numerous publications stated this. However, to date, no transfers have taken place. Reported transfers, that is.


15 posted on 03/27/2015 7:23:18 AM PDT by donozark (On the other side of fear lies freedom)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The UK has 1200 troops, a flight of Eurofighter Typhoons, and one of its most advanced destroyers, HMS Dragon, stationed in the Falklands. There is a pretty good chance they could stop a dozen SU-24s.


16 posted on 03/27/2015 7:26:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Captain Rhino
I'm not sure a copy of a B-29 could ever be supersonic. My comment was not to be taken seriously. But see post # 15 in this thread. That may be what this is all about.
17 posted on 03/27/2015 7:29:37 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Thistooshallpass9
Argentina has ZERO right to the Falklands.
Those islands have been English since before the lands that are now known as Argentina were even offically called Argentina.

An English expedition first discovered the islands in 1690 and named them after the Viscount of Falkland, and then in 1765 another British captain made the name official and claimed them for the King.

Argentina (which was a Spanish settlement) was not even called Argentina until the 1800's, and wasn't even an independent nation until 1861.

18 posted on 03/27/2015 7:39:14 AM PDT by chud
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Tu-4s were codenamed “Bull”, not Bison.

Rumor was that they got that name when someone said “Look, the Soviets have B-29s” and the immediate reply was “Bulls**t!”


19 posted on 03/27/2015 7:53:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Would not surprise me....

Putin would love a distraction right now


20 posted on 03/27/2015 7:59:52 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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