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How to Answer Legitimate Questions From The Left About the Gay Agenda
Charting Course ^ | 4/30/2015 | Steve Berman

Posted on 04/30/2015 7:06:42 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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1 posted on 04/30/2015 7:06:42 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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To: lifeofgrace

Loaded questions aren’t legitimate.


2 posted on 04/30/2015 7:09:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Loaded questions aren’t legitimate.

Indeed. And you don't answer them. When they hand you one, you unload it, then meticulously disassemble it and hand it back to them in pieces without pulling the trigger.

3 posted on 04/30/2015 7:12:36 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: lifeofgrace

How does it harm you if I’m carrying a gun?

How does it harm you if I make more money than you do?

These kinds of questions used as arguments are capricious. Someone will use them as when it advantages their cause, and dismiss them when they don’t.


4 posted on 04/30/2015 7:27:31 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: lifeofgrace

I still don’t get this reasoning. Does this mean that because the government issues divorces, that I’m complicit, and endorsing divorce? Why aren’t we working to end divorce? Particularly if we are interested in protecting children?

In regards to gay marriage, I don’t care if people I don’t know do something I don’t care about.


5 posted on 04/30/2015 7:30:57 AM PDT by Regal
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Why aren’t we working to end divorce?
Certainly a valid question for any Christian. Enough Gospel verses detail Jesus’ explanation that the pro-divorce verses in the Torah were composed by Moses due to the hardness of the Israelites’ hearts on the subject—and even in the face of Korah’s punishment, the illness from the quails and the “fiery serpent” plague among other things, they still were unrepentant on many things.

Divorce has been a colossal attack on the family, with so many nominal Christians helping the Marxist agenda here.
6 posted on 04/30/2015 7:39:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Divorce is the mote in our eye, when we are talking about a splinter in theirs.

I just get the feeling that half of the gay’s interest in marriage is just a means to piss us off. If we wouldn’t react, most of them would just go away.

This fight was lost, not in the courts, but on TV, and movies and the radio. Gay has gotten so accepted by most Americans, particularly the youngsters, that the day will come when the only reason this will be discussed will be when MSM interviewers try to get GOP candidates caught in gotcha questions, like they did to Santorum with the birth control questions last election cycle.


7 posted on 04/30/2015 7:47:01 AM PDT by Regal
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It’s not our “reaction” that’s the problem; it’s the actions of the local, state and federal governments that is, especially their judicial branches. And it’s already gone too far with judicial attacks on businesses run by observant Christians (but no Muslims, take note).

Problems such as this do not go away by ignoring them.


8 posted on 04/30/2015 7:50:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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I just tell leftists I don’t buy that they are “pro-gay rights”.

“Gay rights” is simply a cover for the left to criminalize the Christian beliefs that they despise. They are anti-Christian bigots who are trying to put themselves on the side of the angels by claiming a bogus pro civil rights position.


9 posted on 04/30/2015 7:52:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lifeofgrace

A pointless exercise. This case was decided about 10 years ago when Justice Kennedy wrote the majority opinion legalizing sodomy in Texas. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.


10 posted on 04/30/2015 7:53:53 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Olog-hai

Lots of “Christians” really don’t care about marriage when it comes to divorce. They would rather preserve their convenience to indulge in serial monogamy rather than really defend the institution.


11 posted on 04/30/2015 7:54:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Oh, they’re on the side of the angels (the fallen ones—remember Colossians 2:18), but not on the side of God.


12 posted on 04/30/2015 7:55:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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They’ll find themselves cut off if they persist in it.


13 posted on 04/30/2015 7:56:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Regal

PS. It’s absolutely not a “splinter in theirs”.


14 posted on 04/30/2015 7:57:39 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; Regal

I think the difference lies in what will be required if sodomite marriage is made legal throughout the country.

Right now pastors do preach against the sin of divorce and there are many ministries devoted to helping couples stay married. No one seeking a divorce is attempting to makes those things illegal as a form of hate speech.

Neither are pastors required to publicly bless and agree that God says one’s divorce is not a sin.

Contrast that with the demands of gay marriage. It is hate speech to preach against it, conversion therapy has been made illegal in several states, and if gay marriage is legal no pastor will legally be able to refuse to officiate or have a gay wedding in their church.


15 posted on 04/30/2015 7:59:21 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: lifeofgrace

Ever since homosexuals threatened to taint the entire Red Cross blood supply in the early 1980’s, “just so that they could be heard”, (and put the entire Los Angeles basin innocent population at risk), there is, and has been since, nothing to discuss.

None were arrested, there, either.


16 posted on 04/30/2015 8:02:42 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: lifeofgrace

The easy answer to this question, of course, is that a nation that promotes and encourages homosexuality is inviting God’s wrath to be poured out on it.

An inadequate analogy would be something like:

We’re in a military unit and the commander has let us know in no uncertain terms that if we collectively disobey his commands, we’ll collectively be punished with progressively more harmful punishments, from loss of privileges to confinement at hard labor to the death penalty. Striving to keep in his good graces is therefore the only sane thing to do. The depraved are spiritually insane.

So, far from being a “victimless” crime, homosexuality will result in everybody being the victims of God’s wrath, at least in terms of the destruction of our nation. We’ve already gone from an obedient, and therefore rich and prosperous, nation, to a disobedient nation under God’s lash, trillions of dollars in debt. Neither that obedience and resultant blessings, nor that disobedience and resultant wrath, are coincidences.


17 posted on 04/30/2015 8:11:30 AM PDT by afsnco
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Note that the attack is still against Christianity. None of the SSM merchants are demanding that a Muslim imam marry them. A resurgence of persecution has not been carefully guarded against, and apathy in the divorce arena is just one of many reasons for the resurgence.


18 posted on 04/30/2015 8:13:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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I bet the number of divorced pastors is higher than the number of gays who are or want to marry. My point is that half of their interest in the issue is our reaction. They are like petulant children. Ignore them and the tantrums stop.


19 posted on 04/30/2015 8:15:29 AM PDT by Regal
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To: lifeofgrace

Had to look up a couple of those to find out why specific foods were taboo. Always nice to learn something new. (Jainism prohibits eggs, which are fig newtons; and the faith that prohibits corn beef and cabbage is because the cabbage resembles an ear?)


20 posted on 04/30/2015 8:17:15 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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