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UKRAINE: Time to arm Ukraine
http://strataforum.org/edmond-huet-time-to-arm-ukraine/ ^ | May 06, 2015 | Edmond Huet

Posted on 05/07/2015 2:45:10 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Texas where I was born.

Then you should be worried about Texas's border invasion not Ukraine's.

41 posted on 05/07/2015 5:51:28 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Well they have their hands full getting their troops into Ukraine let alone out. Besides it’s a health safety issue for Ukraine to remove them as well as Russia....both are removing bodies.


42 posted on 05/07/2015 5:54:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: lodi90
...”Nonsense. Poland is Ukraine’s biggest supporter in NATO & the EU along with Lithuania. They’ve even formed a joint military brigade. You repeat Putinist fantasies as if they are facts on a conservative website. Why?”....

Really?....Well, how about you be informed before making comments which are false...here ya go:

The idea of dividing Ukraine is hardly new...it has been a challenge for Ukraine since it won independence in 1991...clear through til today...Ukraine was conquered and divided for centuries by neighboring powers: the Polish, the Austrians etc. Today is no different...

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/02/is-it-time-for-ukraine-to-split-up/283967/

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/time-for-ukraine-to-divide-20140721-zv19c.html

43 posted on 05/07/2015 6:19:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
They're going to partition Ukraine....

I can see this happening....especially if the current regime in Kiev is overthrown and/or Western Ukraine secedes.

44 posted on 05/07/2015 9:23:45 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: McGruff
Then you should be worried about Texas's border invasion not Ukraine's

Hey Russkie, maybe you should worry more about how you're likely the first to be liquidated following a Russian takeover of the world despite how much you cheer for them.

45 posted on 05/07/2015 10:04:46 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

UPDATE INFO: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/europe/ukraine-violence/

Inregards to suppling weapons.. shouldn’t liberals listen to FDR’s 1941 State of the Union! [excerpt]
“... New circumstances are constantly begetting new needs for our safety. I shall ask this Congress for greatly increased new appropriations and authorizations to carry on what we have begun.
I also ask this Congress for authority and for funds sufficient to manufacture additional munitions and war supplies of many kinds, to be turned over to those nations which are now in actual war with aggressor nations.

Our most useful and immediate role is to act as an arsenal for them as well as for ourselves. They do not need man power, but they do need billions of dollars worth of the weapons of defense. The time is near when they will not be able to pay for them all in ready cash. We cannot, and we will not, tell them that they must surrender, merely because of present inability to pay for the weapons which we know they must have.

I do not recommend that we make them a loan of dollars with which to pay for these weapons—a loan to be repaid in dollars.

I recommend that we make it possible for those nations to continue to obtain war materials in the United States, fitting their orders into our own program. Nearly all their materiel would, if the time ever came, be useful for our own defense.

Taking counsel of expert military and naval authorities, considering what is best for our own security, we are free to decide how much should be kept here and how much should be sent abroad to our friends who by their determined and heroic resistance are giving us time in which to make ready our own defense.

For what we send abroad, we shall be repaid within a reasonable time following the close of hostilities, in similar materials, or, at our option, in other goods of many kinds, which they can produce and which we need.

Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.”

In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be.

When the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. They did not wait for Norway or Belgium or the Netherlands to commit an act of war.
Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression.

The happiness of future generations of Americans may well depend upon how effective and how immediate we can make our aid felt. No one can tell the exact character of the emergency situations that we may be called upon to meet. The Nation’s hands must not be tied when the Nation’s life is in danger.

We must all prepare to make the sacrifices that the emergency-almost as serious as war itself—demands. Whatever stands in the way of speed and efficiency in defense preparations must give way to the national need.”


46 posted on 05/07/2015 11:19:05 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: mac_truck

Going to be a long haul no matter what....but it’s either divide the country, let it happen, or there will simply be more of the same. I think Kiev’s going to have to yield or face further land loss. And since the press has stepped back as well as nation leaders from the hype diplomacy is ongoing though few report of such.


47 posted on 05/07/2015 8:32:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

That link says nothing of the post....maybe wrong link...want to try again so instead of exert we can read the right article.


48 posted on 05/07/2015 8:38:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: McGruff; caww; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Of course, if Mexico illegally occupied Texas (which it practically has), and sent armed goons there (which it practically has), I wouldn't expect Mexico-symps on FR to speak in legalistic terms such as "secession."

You commies make me laugh.

49 posted on 05/08/2015 6:12:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: caww

Indeed, as Zakharchenko said late last year...’we will teach you to live in peace’.


50 posted on 05/08/2015 6:56:06 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: 1rudeboy

51 posted on 05/08/2015 8:03:04 AM PDT by caww
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Neither this link nor the one you sent in Freep Mail are what’s written in the update Info. written... so who’s writing ? I’d like the link which actually states the words written in the post.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/europe/ukraine-violence/


52 posted on 05/08/2015 9:05:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I don’t know what you are referencing. The obove link will take you to original article. The link I found interesting as wellas I shared with you later is: http://nv.ua/publications/moskovskie-tayny-general-leytenant-aleksandr-skipalskiy-rasskazal-o-rabote-rossiyskih-specsluzhb-v-ukraine-38071.html
I cannot help you further.


53 posted on 05/09/2015 4:56:06 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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