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1 posted on 06/24/2015 11:13:37 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
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I'm thinking that professional golfer Bubba Watson will keep his flying ...


2 posted on 06/24/2015 11:15:58 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Every Governor or senator should be saying
“I understand your concerns, but we are not going to make that decision at this moment. We are going to let these families grieve and bury their family members and not let this small issue over-shadow respect and calm”
No. Instead they fly to the drooling media with their knee-jerk reactionary politician-like sell out.
Cowards. They are cowards. We have no representation.


3 posted on 06/24/2015 11:22:08 AM PDT by two23 (Ignore the media. It isn't propaganda if we don't listen.)
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This article gives a decent insight to the war and its effect on a nation trying to keep itself together. It gives an idea of the sacrifices made by the men and women of the time.

It make the present crap coming out of the mouths of the political cowards of our time seem coming from the minds of mental lilliputians.

After being a soldier, myself, I believe that regardless of the side one is on, whether that side wins or loses, there is honor in standing up and defending what one believes in. That is why getting rid of a battle flag, which is a piece of cloth and of itself can't represent anything because a piece of cloth doesn't reason or think, is really wrong.

We, as a nation, need to remember and be aware of where we came from and what happened that got us to this point in time.

Civil War Casualties THE COST OF WAR: KILLED, WOUNDED, CAPTURED, AND MISSING The Civil War was America's bloodiest conflict. The unprecedented violence of battles such as Shiloh, Antietam, Stones River, and Gettysburg shocked citizens and international observers alike. Nearly as many men died in captivity during the Civil War as were killed in the whole of the Vietnam War. Hundreds of thousands died of disease. Roughly 2% of the population, an estimated 620,000 men, lost their lives in the line of duty. Taken as a percentage of today's population, the toll would have risen as high as 6 million souls. spotsylvania The Numbers Illustrated The human cost of the Civil War was beyond anybody's expectations. The young nation experienced bloodshed of a magnitude that has not been equaled since by any other American conflict. MILITARY DEATHS IN AMERICAN WARS casualties by war The numbers of Civil War dead were not equaled by the combined toll of other American conflicts until the War in Vietnam. Some believe the number is as high as 850,000. The Civil War Trust does not agree with this claim. CIVIL WAR BATTLE CASUALTIES casualties by battle New military technology combined with old-fashioned tactical doctrine to produce a scale of battle casualties unprecedented in American history. CIVIL WAR SERVICE BY POPULATION North and South compared Even with close to total conscription, the South could not match the North's numerical strength. Southerners also stood a significantly greater chance of being killed, wounded, or captured. CONFEDERATE MILITARY DEATHS BY STATE csa losses by state This chart and the one below are based on research done by Provost Marshal General James Fry in 1866. His estimates for Southern states were based on Confederate muster rolls--many of which were destroyed before he began his study--and many historians have disputed the results. The estimates for Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas have been updated to reflect more recent scholarship. UNION MILITARY DEATHS BY STATE usa losses by state Given the relatively complete preservation of Northern records, Fry's examination of Union deaths is far more accurate than his work in the South. Note the mortal threat that soldiers faced from disease. Casualties of War kwc totals There were an estimated 1.5 million casualties reported during the Civil War. A "casualty" is a military person lost through death, wounds, injury, sickness, internment, capture, or through being missing in action. "Casualty" and "fatality" are not interchangeable terms--death is only one of the ways that a soldier can become a casualty. In practice, officers would usually be responsible for recording casualties that occured within their commands. If a soldier was unable to perform basic duties due to one of the above conditions, the soldier would be considered a casualty. This means that one soldier could be marked as a casualty several times throughout the course of the war. Most casualties and deaths in the Civil War were the result of non-combat-related disease. For every three soldiers killed in battle, five more died of disease. The primitive nature of Civil War medicine, both in its intellectual underpinnings and in its practice in the armies, meant that many wounds and illnesses were unnecessarily fatal. Our modern conception of casualties includes those who have been psychologically damaged by warfare. This distinction did not exist during the Civil War. Soldiers suffering from what we would now recognize as post-traumatic stress disorder were uncataloged and uncared for. Consequences gettysburg dead The Battle of Gettysburg left approximately 7,000 corpses in the fields around the town. Family members had to come to the battlefield to find their loved ones in the carnage. (Library of Congress) Approximately one in four soldiers that went to war never returned home. At the outset of the war, neither army had mechanisms in place to handle the amount of death that the nation was about to experience. There were no national cemeteries, no burial details, and no messengers of loss. The largest human catastrophe in American history, the Civil War forced the young nation to confront death and destruction in a way that has not been equalled before or since. Recruitment was highly localized throughout the war. Regiments of approximately one thousand men, the building block of the armies, would often be raised from the population of a few adjacent counties. Soldiers went to war with their neighbors and their kin. The nature of recruitment meant that a battlefield disaster could wreak havoc on the home community. The 26th North Carolina, hailing from seven counties in the western part of the state, suffered 714 casualties out of 800 men during the Battle of Gettysburg. The 24th Michigan squared off against the 26th North Carolina at Gettysburg and lost 362 out of 496 men. Nearly the entire student body of Ole Miss--135 out 139--enlisted in Company A of the 11th Mississippi. Company A, also known as the "University Greys" suffered 100% casualties in Pickett's Charge. Eighteen members of the Christian family of Christianburg, Virginia were killed during the war. It is estimated that one in three Southern households lost at least one family member. One in thirteen surviving Civil War soldiers returned home missing one or more limbs. Pre-war jobs on farms or in factories became impossible or nearly so. This led to a rise in awareness of veterans' needs as well as increased responsibility and social power for women. For many, however, there was no solution. Tens of thousands of families slipped into destitution. The Scholarly Challenge FOR FURTHER READING This Republic of Suffering: Death and the American Civil War This Republic of Suffering: Death and the American Civil War by Drew G. Faust » infographic See our Civil War Infographic » Should the Number Be Higher? » An Overview of the Civil War » What Caused the Civil War? » Battles of the Civil War » Compiling casualty figures for Civil War soldiers is a complex process. Indeed, it is so complex that even 150 years later no one has, and perhaps no one will, assemble a specific, accurate set of numbers, especially on the Confederate side. A true accounting of the number of men in the armies can be approached through a review of three primary documents: enlistment rolls, muster rolls, and casualty lists. Following any of these investigative methods one will encounter countless flaws and inconsistencies--the records in question are little sheets of paper generated and compiled 150 years ago by human beings in one of the most stressful and confusing environments to ever exist. Enlistment stations were set up in towns and cities across the country, but for the most part only those stations in major northern cities can be relied upon to have preserved records. Confederate enlistment rolls are virtually non-existent. Muster rolls, generated every few months by commanding officers, list soldiers in their respective units as "present" or "absent." This gives a kind of snapshot of the unit's composition in a specific time and place. Overlooking the common misspelling of names and general lack of specificity concerning the condition of a "present" or "absent" soldier, muster rolls provide a valuable look into the past. Unfortunately, these little pieces of paper were usually transported by mule in the rear of a fighting army. Their preservation was adversely affected by rain, river crossings, clerical errors, and cavalry raids. union soldier The average Civil War soldier was 26 years old, weighing 143 pounds and standing 5'8" tall. (Library of Congress) Casualty lists gives the number of men in a unit who were killed, wounded, or went missing in an engagement. However, combat threw armies into administrative chaos and the accounting done in the hours or days immediately following a battle often raises as many questions as it answers. For example: Who are the missing? Weren't many of these soldiers killed and not found? What, exactly, qualifies a wound and did armies account for this the same way? What became of wounded soldiers? Did they rejoin their unit; did they return home; did they die? A wholly accurate count will almost certainly never be made. The effects of this devastating conflict are still felt today. "Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.” --Abraham Lincoln, 2nd Inaugural Address Want the Latest? Follow us on Twitter and Facebook:

4 posted on 06/24/2015 11:23:22 AM PDT by Parmy
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If we are going to ban the Confederate Flag because it was a symbol of slavery, then to be consistent, we should ban the Stars and Stripes too.

It flew over slavery and slave transporting ships for much, much longer than any flag of the Confederacy. If the logic is that the flag flew over slave-owning lands, then the Stars and Stripes has to go, as well.

Heck, even the Ku Klux Klan flew the Stars and Stripes in their rallies...



If we go down that road, we will continue to be lopsided in our views, unaware of our own history.


So What's next? Are they going to take down the Flag of the United States too?

5 posted on 06/24/2015 11:29:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Keep the Confederate Flag Flying

That ship has sailed.

Progressives/Libs have tasted blood in the water and they are not going to capitulate. What could be better? Getting Pubbie politicians in various states to basically throw out the First Amendment by getting them to condemn anything related to the Confederacy.

In a few years, Dems can run against Pubbies on the issue that the Republicans attacked the First Amendment by condemning all things Confederate.

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6 posted on 06/24/2015 11:31:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Keep it flying. Someone with intelligence. Not one of the politically correct morons.


7 posted on 06/24/2015 11:36:23 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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If we’re going to do away with our history, let’s just say there was no such thing as slavery either.


12 posted on 06/24/2015 12:14:22 PM PDT by Hattie
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A photograph of the Confederate Flag held by a insane person certainly requires use of an opportuity for deflection from his so called manifesto as his murderous excuse. Citing the assults and murders of completely innocent whites, “hispanics, and asians, committed by black youths and their reason given was” the cold blood killing of Treyvon Martin” .Doesn’t it ?

As the government started sticking its nose into our tents and lives the use of the Confederate Battle Flag was simply used as a popularized emblem of defiance and protest. To many that display it that was never considered to be because one supported racism although some displaying it do. But those that do so also probably would deny supporting slavery of people of any form including people with black skin.

Use of it as a choice symbol of protest though, runs the risk of a viewer comming to that conclusion. But it should be pointed out that blacks also fought and died on the side of the Confederacy . In the view of the southerners while that greatest loss of life as a result of that conflict. It was not just about the abolition of slavery as it is currently being poltically correctly explained and used. And any move to ban its use should be considered a violation of the Constitutional free speech amendments.


18 posted on 06/24/2015 12:34:57 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

A photograph of the Confederate Flag held by a insane person certainly requires use of an opportuity for deflection from his so called manifesto as his murderous excuse. Citing the assults and murders of completely innocent whites, “hispanics, and asians, committed by black youths and their reason given was” the cold blood killing of Treyvon Martin” .Doesn’t it ?

As the government started sticking its nose into our tents and lives the use of the Confederate Battle Flag was simply used as a popularized emblem of defiance and protest. To many that display it that was never considered to be because one supported racism although some displaying it do. But those that do so also probably would deny supporting slavery of people of any form including people with black skin.

Use of it as a choice symbol of protest though, runs the risk of a viewer comming to that conclusion. But it should be pointed out that blacks also fought and died on the side of the Confederacy . In the view of the southerners while that greatest loss of life as a result of that conflict. It was not just about the abolition of slavery as it is currently being poltically correctly explained and used. And any move to ban its use should be considered a violation of the Constitutional free speech amendments.


19 posted on 06/24/2015 12:34:58 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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Ban the flag. Also, ban the democrats, the party that originally flew the flag. The party of KKK. The party of racial hate and discord, even today.


22 posted on 06/24/2015 12:53:32 PM PDT by samtheman
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I am for the removal of the Rainbow Flag from the face of the earth, is anybody with me?


23 posted on 06/24/2015 12:56:36 PM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (BLUE LIVES MATTER)
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If ya got em fly em. :-)


25 posted on 06/24/2015 1:09:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Canada Free Press is a GREAT site!


26 posted on 06/24/2015 1:20:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To quote o’s MO, “all of this for a damn flag”


28 posted on 06/24/2015 1:23:59 PM PDT by V K Lee
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