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What Is a Conservative? What Defines the GOP?
Diana West's Website ^ | December 15, 2015 | Diana West

Posted on 12/15/2015 12:35:00 PM PST by No One Special

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1 posted on 12/15/2015 12:35:00 PM PST by No One Special
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To: sauropod

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2 posted on 12/15/2015 12:37:55 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: No One Special


"Who is/who isn't" conservative is just a leftist-oligarch ploy to turn American patriots against each other.


3 posted on 12/15/2015 12:44:28 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: No One Special

Interesting Headline. 2 great questions.

Too bad the article had NOTHING to do with the headline, addressing the headline, or even answering the headline.


4 posted on 12/15/2015 12:45:06 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: No One Special

Outstanding article! Thanks for posting!


5 posted on 12/15/2015 12:54:11 PM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: No One Special
Let's take a closer look at Continetti's top four GOP markers: 1) internationalist in outlook; 2) pro-free trade; 3) pro-immigration; 4) support for American leadership in global institutions.

At one time, such positions defined the Left side of the American political spectrum, even the far Left -- even the Communist Party USA!

True...shows just how far the gop has strayed from it's base.

6 posted on 12/15/2015 12:56:16 PM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: No One Special

“Let’s take a closer look at Continetti’s top four GOP markers: 1) internationalist in outlook; 2) pro-free trade; 3) pro-immigration; 4) support for American leadership in global institutions.”

Here’s the problem right here. These are not necessarily conservative or patriotic goals for the nation - especially if you ask for clarification on what “support for American leadership in global institutions” might really mean, these are the GOPe goals that most here hate, that undermine our sovereignty and our culture.


7 posted on 12/15/2015 12:57:29 PM PST by Lake Living
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To: No One Special
Since declaring his candidacy in June, Trump has been consistent on issues of immigration and trade and security.

This is what the election is about. All the blather and babbling about who is or is not a real conservative, or a genuine conservative is nothing but a distraction, or a confusing obsession some cannot free themselves of.

What Obama and previous Dim administrations have done is conduct a massive Democrat voter recruitment drive by way of legal and illegal immigration, and joining with Republican cheap labor express presidents in not enforcing immigration law. Self-destructive Republicans I might add.

If those trends are not stopped and even reversed, then conservatives, genuine or not, can forget about winning the presidency again for decades to come, if ever.

Donald Trump made these issues the central issue of the Republican primaries. A few others such as Cruz have done some flip/flops and tried to catch up. But Trump is the only who has made these the central issues since announcing his candidacy, and the only one who has displayed the determination and independence to reverse the trends if elected.

8 posted on 12/15/2015 12:59:33 PM PST by Will88
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I think any serious reader has to make a distinction between European right wing politics and US conservative politics. There is little to compare. Conservative are not generally that far right, and far right in this country is not necessarily conservative, and Donald Trump is neither far right nor Conservative nor establishment republican.

He's a middle of the road moderate with a populist personae, no different than many North Easterners like Giuliani, for example or Cristie. Plus numerous other examples......Even Bill Oreilly.

9 posted on 12/15/2015 1:02:25 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
I think any serious reader has to make a distinction between European right wing politics and US conservative politics. There is little to compare.

Basically the English speaking right are comparable. (USA, Canada, Australia, and Great Britain)

Beyond that I am the same constitutional conservative that I was last year and I will continue to support constitutional government and Ted Cruz even if I have to write his name in next November.
10 posted on 12/15/2015 1:13:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: No One Special

Trump isn’t a conservative, particularly, at least not based on his past.

But he is a nationalist, and this time out, national sovereignty is the number one issue for many conservatives to the point that this issue “trumps” all others.

This is the point that many or most pundits miss, and this is the point that has tripped up almost every other candidate. National sovereignty is the number one issue for many people and its high on the list for most of the rest. Bush threw that issue away, as did Rubio, as did most of the other candidates. Trump seized it right out of the gate, and held on to it in the face of tremendous criticism even from GOP stalwarts. Thats why so many conservatives trust him on at least that issue if not on every issue. They have made a conscious decision that that issue is first.


11 posted on 12/15/2015 1:16:18 PM PST by marron
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, the Aussies and GB are very similar, but the rest of Europe is not...

Nazi’s are far right in Europe, for example, as are the anti-Semitics..

And I agree with you on Cruz...although I have not made up my mind should he lose the nomination...I have quite a few months to do that.


12 posted on 12/15/2015 1:17:30 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: marron
But he is a nationalist, and this time out, national sovereignty is the number one issue for many conservatives to the point that this issue “trumps” all others.

Otherwise known as former conservatives.
13 posted on 12/15/2015 1:20:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: marron
But he is a nationalist

Personaly I never use that term. Nationalist is a term of derision by the left wing...in Europe used against political enemies.. We tend to call someone who's total shtick is based on popular belief, a Populist. As far as nationalism goes, you can find that across the entire political spectrum in the US to one degree or another but more so on the political right and libertarians.. It really does not equate with patriotism, as many seem to think. It equates more to paleo conservatism.

14 posted on 12/15/2015 1:25:46 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: cripplecreek
Otherwise known as former conservatives.

A nationalist is otherwise known as a non-globalist, or a non-internationalist. It doesn't really belong in any conservative/non-conservative debate.

Are conservatives globalists, free traders, free marketers and open borders advocates?

15 posted on 12/15/2015 1:33:41 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

I notice you didn’t mention the constitution.


16 posted on 12/15/2015 1:37:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

1. What is Conservatism?
Conservatism is defined by what you want to conserve. I want to conserve my country, my religion, my family and the means to protect them.

2. Republicans want to conserve money.


17 posted on 12/15/2015 1:38:18 PM PST by ex-snook ( God is love.)
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To: No One Special

Reagan was not an illegal immigration advocate. He wrongly compromised with amnesty on the promise it would be the last time.

Neither would Reagan support bringing in terrorists from the middle east.

That said, Trump is no Reagan conservative. Not even close. He is a strong personality adept at scamming people with strong statements, then backing off and being vague about his true position. He works for himself, for praise and money.


18 posted on 12/15/2015 1:40:32 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: cripplecreek
I notice you didnt mention the constitution.

I noticed you didn't answer a simple question about specific conservative beliefs.

And the constitution does not get into matters of what is liberal or conservative, or whatever philosophy.

19 posted on 12/15/2015 1:52:53 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

I’m a constitutional conservative and the constitution speaks for itself.


20 posted on 12/15/2015 1:54:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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