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What Is a Conservative? What Defines the GOP?
Diana West's Website ^ | December 15, 2015 | Diana West

Posted on 12/15/2015 12:35:00 PM PST by No One Special

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To: No One Special
Modern Conservatism lacks Nationalism...the principle of America First.

Thus, open borders, H-1B, Bad Trade...Constitutional Bypasses etc.

Much of "Conservatism" today is essentially anti-American.

21 posted on 12/15/2015 1:57:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: cripplecreek
Im a constitutional conservative and the constitution speaks for itself.

You're avoiding a central question of this article.

Are conservatives globalists, free traders, free marketers and open borders advocates?

The constitution speaks for itself in often very general terms.

22 posted on 12/15/2015 2:04:17 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Honestly I just don’t respect your kind (Progressives) enough to waste a lot of time on answering you.


23 posted on 12/15/2015 2:09:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek
Honestly I just don’t respect your kind (Progressives) enough to waste a lot of time on answering you.

Lol, as you continue to avoid a simple question and resort to childish name calling.

Scratch below the surface and one often finds that posters who specialize in almost cryptic one-liners and short blurbs actually have very little depth to their ideas.

But I'll repeat the question that stumped you for any genuine conservatives who care to answer it.

Are conservatives globalists, free traders, free marketers and open borders advocates?

24 posted on 12/15/2015 2:20:08 PM PST by Will88
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"Are conservatives globalists, free traders, free marketers and open borders advocates? "

The Modern Conservative Movement most definitely is all of the above. Along with international interventions it's embodied in the Republican Party.

And has been for at least 40 years. And that includes Ronald Reagan, though he wasn't a true open borders advocate, bill signing notwithstanding.

The real question on the table is: What is Conservatism?

I suggest Nationalism is missing and that many of the issues above are not America First.

And, it's time to redefine Conservatism as it's currently intellectualized, debated and practiced.

That can only be done by winning a series of elections with America First as the principal underpinning, thereby reforming all the institutions surrounding the body politic.

Could that be the rebirth of the Paleo Conservative?

25 posted on 12/15/2015 3:13:07 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: marron
But he is a nationalist, and this time out, national sovereignty is the number one issue for many conservatives to the point that this issue “trumps” all others.

Nationalism without constitutionalism and liberty is meaningless.

26 posted on 12/15/2015 3:23:13 PM PST by FreeReign
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Are conservatives globalists, free traders, free marketers and open borders advocates?

The Modern Conservative Movement most definitely is all of the above. Along with international interventions it's embodied in the Republican Party.

Totally agree. The correct answer that many who consider themselves to be conservatives just can't bring themselves to provide.

And any rational definition of free markets on an global scale must include the free movement of labor. Some free traders believe that, but only a few will admit it. Many other 'free traders' conveniently want to say free trade does not include the free movement of labor, but the true definition definitely does.

We do need to make nationalism part of our international trade policies again. I actually believe in 'mostly' free trade with nations of comparable living standards, and tariffed trade with all these cheap labor nations.

As Trump says, we should negotiate agreements with individual nations, or small blocks of similar nations. None of the NAFTA and TPP type nonsense.

Paleo Conservative might be the most accurate description. We definitely need to start putting the interests of the US and her citizens first, and that means an economy that provides opportunity for citizens and legal residents at all skill levels.

And we need to decrease the annual trillion dollars of means tested poverty program payouts by creating jobs that the recipients can fill at all skill levels. That'd do more to reduce the budget deficit than anything. Trump has talked about that, but it's been a while since I've heard him mention it. That's also one of his great issues if he'd start tying it in with immigration/trade/the economy, etc.

27 posted on 12/15/2015 3:33:34 PM PST by Will88
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To: cripplecreek

If a conservative does not hold American nationalism above all, they are not conservative. I am not a citizen of the world. Most of the GOP is now loyal first to the international financial order, not to America.


28 posted on 12/15/2015 4:14:55 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: cripplecreek

The guys who wrote the Constitution financed the government with tariffs, did not tax income, warned us about entangling alliances, and not looking abroad for dragons to slay.
They did not create a central bank.

Today’s “conservatism” stands against most of what they created.


29 posted on 12/15/2015 4:23:25 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: No One Special

What Is a Conservative? A conservative believes in constitutionally-limited government, free markets, states rights, individual liberty, a strong but not overly ambitious foreign policy, and the preservation of what the late, great Dr. Russell Kirk called “the permanent things”.

What Defines the GOP? Their only principle is to hve no principles.
Their only strategy is preemptive surrender.
Their only plan for victory is to tick off their base as much as possible.

The Republican Party was founded to replace the Whigs because the Whigs refused to take a stand on the important issues of the day. Well, they did such a good job of replacing the Whigs that they have become the Whigs.


30 posted on 12/18/2015 11:11:34 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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