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PREDICTION VALIDATED: Trump Poll Numbers May Be Vastly Inflated Due to Name Recognition
Director Blue ^ | February 7, 2016 | Malcolm X. Cromwell

Posted on 02/08/2016 12:23:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Windflier
You’re about to land hard. Real hard

Like Trump landed real hard on his butt when he got his ass handed to him in Iowa?

41 posted on 02/08/2016 2:52:24 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Spirit of Liberty
Huckabee and Santorum have better name recognition than Trump?
42 posted on 02/08/2016 2:53:58 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: grania

You make a good point for sure…but don’t forget that Trump did get a lot of voters out in Iowa.


43 posted on 02/08/2016 2:58:37 AM PST by toddausauras ( Leftplosion.)
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To: Helicondelta
The RCP average had Trump and Cruz in a statistical tie before the Iowa caucus.

Nope. Trump kept tweeting the CNN poll which had him winning by 11% with just a few days to go.
Not to mention you crazy Trumpbots kept insisting that Trump's shindig for veterans which was also attended by Huckabee and Said was going to get him more votes than if he had attended the GOP debate. Now you are saying the exact opposite. You can't have it both ways

44 posted on 02/08/2016 3:06:32 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Perhaps you will explain to me how Donald Trump is going to win in a general election when he has the highest negatives of any candidate in history?


45 posted on 02/08/2016 3:12:18 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
That's not what I said.

In Iowa, which is the state the article is discussing, Huckabee won the 2008 caucus; Santorum won 2012. One would assume that they have better name recognition than say, Gilmore. Trump's been a celebrity for decades. Maybe I'm being naive/idealistic/whatever, but if I was being asked in a political poll who I was voting for, and I'm so low information that all I have to make a choice is name recognition, I would pick Huckabee or Santorum because I should recognize their names as politicians.

46 posted on 02/08/2016 3:23:14 AM PST by Spirit of Liberty (Time to go Galt!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Big difference between a fan and a person who is committed enough to get out and vote on primary day. We’ll get a good idea Tuesday and will know the extent of the effect after South Carolina.


47 posted on 02/08/2016 3:27:36 AM PST by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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To: SmokingJoe

He won’t win. In a two person debate he’ll be torn apart even by Hillary or Sanders.


48 posted on 02/08/2016 3:28:18 AM PST by FreedomForce ( Cruz 2016 --------- I've come to my senses. Trump is no longer even my second choice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Name recognition is why candidates spend a fortune in print ads and yard signs. Every candidate lives and breathes name recognition, IMO.

Huckabee had a successful TV show, everyone knows the Bush name .....name recognition isn’t working for them.

So many haters are acting like Trump came in last in Iowa. Why do they continually think they can brainwash us into believing their fabricated story lines?


49 posted on 02/08/2016 3:36:02 AM PST by Ms Mable
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To: Spirit of Liberty

You fail to mention that we had record voter turnout this year up over 50% . These new voters never voted for Santorum or Huckabee. Plus of course those who voted this year are not exactly the same as those who voted in 2008 and 2012.
There is no question some of Trump’s poll numbers are from much higher name recognition.


50 posted on 02/08/2016 3:37:11 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Except they never say this about Cankles. We’ll see after tomorrow.

However, they can’t explain why Cruz’s poll numbers have stagnated since Carsongate.


51 posted on 02/08/2016 3:38:51 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Ms Mable
This is easy. Luckily Gallup has done a poll which measures name recognition as well as favorability.

Trump has a vastly higher name recognition than Ted Cruz for example (a gap of 17%). Meanwhile Ted Cruz smokes Trump in net favorability.

52 posted on 02/08/2016 3:49:41 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d agree, except that Trump’s Republican poll numbers were TERRIBLE before he announced and just when he announced...why weren’t his numbers ‘inflated’ then, everyone already knew who he was BEFORE he ran.

And then he mentioned the wall and they started going up, and up, and up...

So New Hampshire will be the REAL TEST. If Trump makes it to 35%, then his numbers CLEARLY are real. If 30-35, then maybe, if lower, then maybe some merit here.

Iowa didn’t mean jack, given how they vote versus how they poll. Until pollsters start including the ‘evangelical factor’ in polling, which basically means adjusting the candidate’s apparent level of support either up or down up to 5 points, depending on their ‘religious creds’, they will never get it right. Had they done this the past 3 rounds, they would have predicted the winner.


53 posted on 02/08/2016 3:57:08 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...and actually I think it’s more likely we’ll see a repeat of 1980, where people being polled didn’t want to let it be known that they were ready to vote for the ‘extremist’, so they just said Carter. In fact, the polling just prior to election night all said “too close to call”.

I think we’ll see that effect as people publicly say one thing regarding how they’ll vote, but privately vote in the way they see best, which, of course, means Trump.


54 posted on 02/08/2016 3:59:25 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Trump should win this easily. If not he is going the way of Paul, Pataki etc


55 posted on 02/08/2016 4:41:25 AM PST by italianquaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Or not

For a guy who was going to fade away and had no ground game at all in Iowa,Trump seems to be confounding the pundit class

Time will tell all


56 posted on 02/08/2016 4:49:10 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: grania

Trump draws a lot of big crowds which I believe shows that it’s more than name recognition. I think Trump will do well this week but they should put more effort in the get out the vote.

Sometimes people see a candidate way ahead in the polls and they assume there guy will win anyway, so why bother going out in the cold to vote? Hopefully this won’t happen with Trump.


57 posted on 02/08/2016 4:50:22 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever Trump is the only hope.)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Then you don’t understand how angry folks are at the DC establishment


58 posted on 02/08/2016 4:51:58 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess the author’s theory doesn’t apply to the Clinton/Sanders race.


59 posted on 02/08/2016 4:55:50 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: BobL

Iowa is a screwy system that makes voting harder and allows for funny business. The candidate that spends the most time and money organizing volunteers and dragging people to the polls wins. Cruz probably had a second home there for the past 2 years and Trump still came in a close second. Iowa is a joke, I wish all candidates would start ignoring it and lower it’s status.


60 posted on 02/08/2016 4:57:23 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever Trump is the only hope.)
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