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When Everyone Goes to College: a Lesson From South Korea
The Chronicle of Higher Education | May 1, 2016 | Karin Fischer

Posted on 05/02/2016 8:04:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://chronicle.com/article/When-Everyone-Goes-to-College-/236313?key=Km5VaSwSOs9-HKfuI3FnkvBnLNgCDGedRc3dh4ndFUdfaEt3dWVzN2RDVG50MnowVjFjazJiaHBNN3JUd3FnR3o3UzhkSEF1WUZF


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Government
KEYWORDS: 2016election; berniesanders; college; education; election2016; karinfischer; korea; republicofkorea; vermont
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1 posted on 05/02/2016 8:04:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Link here now with single clickety goodness;

http://chronicle.com/article/When-Everyone-Goes-to-College-/236313?key=Km5VaSwSOs9-HKfuI3FnkvBnLNgCDGedRc3dh4ndFUdfaEt3dWVzN2RDVG50MnowVjFjazJiaHBNN3JUd3FnR3o3UzhkSEF1WUZF


2 posted on 05/02/2016 8:08:54 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even in the US, during slow economic periods, it is common to find over-educated people doing rather menial jobs.

A half-century ago, PhD’s driving cabs were common at time in some areas.


3 posted on 05/02/2016 8:10:02 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
"It’s not higher education anymore," he says. "It’s just an extension of high school."

that's already the case with many US colleges.

4 posted on 05/02/2016 8:27:45 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

The state university I attended in NJ was literally an extension of high school for many “preferred minorities”; they would waste away in “remedial classes” (high school-level classes without which white guys weren’t even admitted) for a couple of semesters earning no college credits before dropping out.

The whole idea of “general education requirements” (basic classes in English, Math, etc. required regardless of your major) are a waste of time & money, and provide a high school atmosphere to at least the first two years of college.


5 posted on 05/02/2016 8:33:35 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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6 posted on 05/02/2016 8:36:23 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

And everyone entering the service would start as a 2nd Louie


7 posted on 05/02/2016 8:37:37 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: PGR88

4+ years that could be productive working? That’s 10% of ones work life wasted. Most jobs do not require a college degree. 18 year-olds should live at home for 2-4 years and invest ALL their income. They will be much better off 40 years down the road.

Start it off by paying 1000 valedictorians $100k to NOT go to college.


8 posted on 05/02/2016 8:38:42 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: kearnyirish2

My degrees were in Pure and Applied Science and Pharmacy. Chem, Math, Physics, Botany, Zoology, Physiology, and of course Geology and Pharmacy, were my daily diet at University. I always could obtain a well paying job.

The problem is our universities offer degrees that are worthless in many cases. If you courses are tough you will find a job when you graduate.

My niece has a degree in “women’s studies.” Her job sucks. She is now enrolled in a Masters Program in Medical Administration with a business administration degree. She will get a good job.

Reality is a harsh master.


9 posted on 05/02/2016 8:49:20 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN, CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: PGR88

My daughter is in college now. Just finished her first year. We home schooled her instead of public high school. She just turned 18 about a month before she finished her first year.

It is pathetic that she had to show other second year students how to do the chemistry. They often asked where she learned it. She replied in high school chemistry. Just shows how pathetic public school really is.

Really they start so far behind students from 20 years ago when I went. What was expected back then is now second year. That is what we based her education on was the requirements from when my wife and I entered college.


10 posted on 05/02/2016 8:51:06 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Most jobs that now require a degree don't actually require a degree.

They now want a 4 year college degree to be a receptionist.

You answer a phone, say, "one moment let me connect you" or "please hold" and they think you need a 4 year degree.

11 posted on 05/02/2016 8:53:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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Employers use degrees as a way of filtering job applicants, not because the job actually requires it.

It’s called “credential creep” and is an international phenomenon.


12 posted on 05/02/2016 9:00:28 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screaming and running, falling down and dying.


13 posted on 05/02/2016 9:01:54 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocal supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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To: Catmom
It also means that what were once considered "entry level jobs" are closed to the white working poor.

I am fairly sure this is not by chance.

14 posted on 05/02/2016 9:11:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The experience in the US will be worse, since Asians are smarter than Whites and Blacks.


15 posted on 05/02/2016 9:50:04 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So who does all the trade jobs there? And who works at the fast food joints?


16 posted on 05/02/2016 10:07:14 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: TomGuy
A half-century ago, PhD’s driving cabs were common at time in some areas.

A half century ago! Well, geez yeah, come to think of it. It was practically de rigueur. 'Cuz, you know, you've got a PhD ! What do you care !

17 posted on 05/02/2016 10:13:21 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: kearnyirish2
The remnants of the Classic Liberal Arts education are in ruins.

Life and the modern world changed, Academia did not, it remained fixed at 1965 with additions of Politically Correct faculties that are worthless.

Academia is a business but it lost it's way during the Vietnam war. Instead of preparing youth for tomorrow, it prepared youth to automatically rebel and tear down the very freedoms Academia is supposed to support.

Instead of training the elite and working class strata for employment in a manufacturing country, America became a giant WalMart and Kim Kadishan idol worshiping nation. Now many students see themselves as the Elite.

The hard won Judeo-Christian Protestant work ethic has crumbled.

As a Professor of mine at Michigan once said, “getting an undergraduate degree does not assume that you KNOW anything, but it does assume that you now know how to ask the RIGHT questions”.

Now, I am not even sure that hold true.

18 posted on 05/02/2016 10:30:30 PM PDT by Netz
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To: 353FMG
And everyone entering the service would start as a 2nd Louie

That's fascinating, because in today's, 5/2/2016, NYT Xword puzzle, the answer to 28A Superiors to sarges, was LOOIES, which is certain because LOUIES would turn YOWZA into YUWZA, which would never do for "Holy Moly!"

But that's funny because I was thinking LOUIES.

19 posted on 05/02/2016 11:12:10 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Netz
The hard won Judeo-Christian Protestant work ethic has crumbled.

The Judeo-Christian Protestant work ethic, by whatever name, can never crumble, because it is simple physics. It can only be abandoned.

20 posted on 05/02/2016 11:18:12 PM PDT by dr_lew
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