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1 posted on 05/08/2016 2:51:54 PM PDT by poconopundit
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To: HarleyLady27; Be Careful; Fiddlstix; JoSixChip; kanawa; Yaelle; SubMareener; Vision Thing; ...

Hope you enjoy reading about the parallels in the lives of two great businessman patriots.


2 posted on 05/08/2016 2:54:41 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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Very interesting article. Thank you for posting it.


3 posted on 05/08/2016 2:56:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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And for people who haven’t voted in a primary yet, just remember, it is not over! Who knows what the Republicans are plotting? We need to get him to 1237! New Jerseyeans, I mean you!!!


4 posted on 05/08/2016 2:56:47 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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Both Franklin and Trump are quintessential Americans. However, Trump will pass up Franklin once he becomes president. And if Trump restores the nation, he will end up on the $1,000 bill while Franklin remains on those Benjamin $100 bills.


5 posted on 05/08/2016 3:03:37 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Vote Trump!)
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Fabulous article!!!

They are almost alike in so many ways...

Thank you!!!

People don't forget to vote:

California; Oregon; Washington; Montana; South Dakota; New Mexico; New Jersey; West Virginia...

We need Trump to be way over the 1237 delegate count so they can't take this away from him our us...

6 posted on 05/08/2016 3:06:30 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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"[T]he Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably [sic] very small… . I could wish their Numbers were increased…. But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind. [W]hy increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America?" - Benjamin Franklin
7 posted on 05/08/2016 3:12:28 PM PDT by ghosthost
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To: poconopundit

Good read. Well done! :)


8 posted on 05/08/2016 3:18:41 PM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some 2016 house cleaning. Trump/??? 2016!")
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Thanks, I needed the laugh.


9 posted on 05/08/2016 3:19:00 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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Thanks for the ping PP. True, at first glance the two have a good many similarities. And if Ben rather than George Washington had been elected first president what would now be different in the way our country is seen (if anything).

Looks like another storm coming thru. Signing off for now.


11 posted on 05/08/2016 3:41:13 PM PDT by V K Lee (uTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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The Virtue of Frugality is worth mentioning, since the anti-Trump crowd loved to call him a “cheapskate” when it came to buying TV ads, etc but in fact we now see Trump has reinvented how the “ground game” is played, relying on social media and free news coverage by being the thought-leader who dominated every news cycle. To borrow Linda Grahams horrible example, if they shot Ted Cruz on the Senate floor...the news channels would be talking about Trump calling some poor protestor a naughty name.


12 posted on 05/08/2016 3:42:45 PM PDT by bigbob
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Some one here, I forgot who, compared Trump to the Biblical judge Sampson.

They both have notable hair
Neither drink alcohol
Both chased foreign women
Neither respond well to insults
Both are patriots who put their nation first
Both are men of direct action
Both are somewhat crude
Both wanted to get rid of Philistine invaders


13 posted on 05/08/2016 3:43:49 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Marvin the Paramoid Android is My Hero)
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Terrific job. A tad sycophantic perhaps, but otherwise near perfect. Thanks for sharing.


15 posted on 05/08/2016 3:57:17 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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Good article. I learned a new word today. Venery. Thanks Ben Franklin!

Trump's 5th "Art of the Deal" Principle explains a lot.

18 posted on 05/08/2016 4:26:21 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (1,068); Cruz (564); Rubio (166); Kasich (153)
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Very interesting comparison of rough and tumble patriots.

Two California Republican primary votes for Trump in June, pedal to the metal until he's got the nomination.

20 posted on 05/08/2016 4:38:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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Poco thanks for putting this together. I'm going out on a limb here because I'm not a Franklin historian but another thing that's similar (and wouldn't necessarily be appreciated here) is that neither of them are/were particularly loyal to a philosophy other than 'do whatever works.'

They basically cobble together solutions based on the legos available at the time to solve a problem at the time - whether it's stitching together a deal or inventing something ... relatively free of dogma - basically, pure do-ers ... even though Franklin often had a lot to say (most of it was about doing - how to live, not really philosphy of this or that.)

A good example is probably Franklin's Postal Service ... which at the time was an excellent thing for the country ... yet really the government, at least philisophically, had no place doing it.

So there is a danger with these guys (both of whom I totally support) ... but right now, we have intense, white hot debate and anger between the left and the right -> all it is ... is a distraction ... while in Ben and Trump's world - the real world - the country is slipping away.

So I think there has never been a better time to say 'hey, conservatism is great, correct, right, sound' ... but dogmatic adherence to it is getting us no where.

Franklin I'm sure would have agreed that 'the perfect is the enemy of the good.' And I'd argue that at the moment, in terms of actually getting anything done which mostly amounts to stopping the assault on our nation from within and without, it's hard to say any of the pure conservatives are even 'good' -> what has dogmatic intellectual Capital C Conservatism won?

So ... these guys are total do-ers ... and in doing so ... I think you accept when you hire them ... it's on their terms, and they will probably horrify in a few places, but they will leave 100 blessings and 3 horrifications ... which is much better than 0 horrifications, 2 blessings ... and a dead country.

Alan Watts - thumbs up ... every few months I'll pull up some of his stuff on youtube ... Happy Week! Thanks again for putting it together for us!

22 posted on 05/08/2016 5:40:38 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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I HAD THIS EXACT THOUGHT some time back.

You beat me to the editorial.

Well done.


23 posted on 05/08/2016 5:45:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Whatever the question, Donald Trump is the answer.)
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To: poconopundit

Well done.
Shared with a link back to here.


24 posted on 05/08/2016 6:46:56 PM PDT by kanawa
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I love this post. I just read perhaps my sixth biography of Franklin, whom I revere. I have dog-eared many pages in the book, Stealing God's Thunder, for the parallels with today's political situation and the person of Trump.
25 posted on 05/08/2016 9:15:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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Donald Trump looks like Tom Berenger.


26 posted on 05/08/2016 9:59:53 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Benjamin Franklin has been added to the list.
This is an ongoing list of historical, popular, and Biblical people, as well as fictional characters, animals, and other things that Donald Trump has been compared favorably to on FR:

30 posted on 02/23/2017 3:25:42 PM PST by EveningStar
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