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The awkward Sunngard automatic pistol
AShooting Journal ^ | 8/9/2016 | J Hines

Posted on 08/09/2016 7:27:28 AM PDT by w1n1

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To: BDParrish
Interesting story, but sounds more like an ammunition failure than an inherent problem with the .25 ACP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GoKCJVv6cg

21 posted on 08/09/2016 8:54:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: GMMC0987

They probably didn’t need to distinguish between “semi” and “full” automatic until someone invented the first machine pistol.


22 posted on 08/09/2016 9:20:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: IronJack

Oh I dunno, ugly guns can have their place too:

“The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. ‘Make it evil,’ he’d been told. ‘Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it, then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with.’”

- the Kill-O-Zap gun from “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”


23 posted on 08/09/2016 9:25:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SkyDancer

Pray for me. I saw them at the original time in original black and white on a CRT TV. Even back then we kids had our doubts about the 6/100 Colt six shooters.

The old Perry Mason shows were also a hoot where all.of his male clients were rich and innocent, while the females were rich, innocent, and beautiful. The other thing about PM shows was you didn’t even need to watch one to know what was going to happen. All you had to do was watch the clock. The dramatic courtroom confession would always come at 25 minutes into the show.


24 posted on 08/09/2016 9:35:05 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Interesting how that went - one case in point was Columbo which started out where the evil doers did their crime and you knew who did it but watched as Columbo went through the paces and low and behold figured out who done did it by the end of the show.


25 posted on 08/09/2016 9:38:14 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Boogieman

There’s ugly. And then there’s threatening. The gun Adams describes fall in the latter category. This hdeous thing looks like someone brazed a snuffbox onto a water pipe.


26 posted on 08/09/2016 9:46:48 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: katana

A truly sad story..................(;^)


27 posted on 08/09/2016 10:02:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: SkyDancer

Haha! Correcto-mundo! I find myself counting rounds during movie shootouts, and it never matches the gun. Also, shotguns poof out sparks and some smoke, all the while sounding like rifles. The shotguns never kick, and ricochets often occur. LOL!


28 posted on 08/09/2016 10:13:29 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SgtHooper

There was a movie made in the 80’s (Red Heat)with Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Russian cop - there was one scene using a .357 magnum revolver and I swear I counted at least 10 or 12 shots fired out of it and he never reloaded.


29 posted on 08/09/2016 10:19:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: SkyDancer
Arnold's guns never need reloading ..


30 posted on 08/09/2016 12:32:36 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

DeGropenator !


31 posted on 08/09/2016 5:21:36 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Interesting story, but sounds more like an ammunition failure than an inherent problem with the .25 ACP.

.25 ACP has between 85 and 127 joules muzzle energy. Less than .22 LR

9mm has between 518 and 678 joules of energy.

More energy = more damage.

32 posted on 08/09/2016 5:37:08 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I agree 100%. I was commenting on the story where a cop pulled out his backup .25 acp, fired point blank into a perp’s chest, and all he did was leave a red mark on the guy’s chest.


33 posted on 08/09/2016 6:56:23 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
fired point blank into a perp’s chest, and all he did was leave a red mark on the guy’s chest.

My guess is that the bullet hit the sternum, and didn't have enough energy to penetrate the bone.

34 posted on 08/10/2016 4:36:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: BenLurkin

All the WWII guys I knew in the 50s called them .45 automatics. The designation may have always technically been semi-automatic but the entire public called them automatics. It’s only people in too tight control of their sphincter who don’t get historical context.


35 posted on 08/10/2016 4:42:31 AM PDT by Stentor
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