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GREENFIELD: WHAT WILL REPLACE ISIS?
FrontPage ^ | October 28, 2016 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/28/2016 4:23:34 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

What Will Replace ISIS?

This is a war to determine whether the future will belong to the West or to Islam.

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Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam.

Before long the same administration that declared the fighting in Iraq over several times will claim victory over ISIS. The timetable for its push against the Islamic State appears to have less do with the victimized Christians and Yazidis who have been prevented from coming here as refugees in favor of Syrian Muslims than with the Clinton presidential campaign. Like Obama’s declarations that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were over, the announcement that ISIS has been defeated will be premature.

It is based on a profound misunderstanding and misreading of Islamic terrorism.

Long before its current string of defeats, ISIS had begun evolving into another Al Qaeda; a multinational alliance of Jihadists scattered around the world. Bombing Mosul isn’t hard, but try bombing Marseille, Brussels or London. There is no doubt that the ability of ISIS to temporarily establish a caliphate allowed it to build a network that could carry out terror attacks from New York to Miami to Nice to Munich. But it would be dangerous to assume that losing Iraq and Syria will stop ISIS.

ISIS doesn’t matter. The idea of ISIS does. And the idea of ISIS is Islamic supremacism.

The organization we think of ISIS has transformed and rebranded countless times. Even now our leaders vacillate between calling it ISIS, ISIL or, more childishly, Daesh, while it dubs itself the Islamic State. We have been fighting it in one form or another for over a decade. It would be unrealistically optimistic to assume that the war will end just as this old enemy has shown its ability to strike deep in our own cities.

The bigger error though is to think that we are fighting an organization. We are fighting an idea. That is not to contend, as Obama does, that we can debate it to death. It is not the sort of idea that argues with words, but with bullets, bombs and swords. But neither does it just go away if you seize a city.

Al Qaeda in Iraq not only survived the death of Zarqawi, but it became even more dangerous under Baghdadi. It would be risky to assume that ISIS will die with him. Instead it may very well grow into a new phase of Al Qaeda, one that ties together some of the world’s deadliest Islamic terror groups into a network that is decentralized enough that it will not suffer from Al Qaeda’s leadership fatigue.

The rise of Islamic terrorism has been an incremental process in which new groups learn from the mistakes of the old and supersede them. If ISIS does recede into a localized oblivion, reemerging only on occasion to suicide bomb something or someone in Baghdad, then a deadlier and even more effective group is likely to take its place. Each group will move one step closer to realizing the caliphate.

To break the cycle, we must confront the idea of the caliphate at the heart of Islamic terrorism.

ISIS is not un-Islamic. It is ruthlessly and uncompromisingly Islamic in that, unlike its predecessors in the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda, it makes the fewest compromises to civilizational sensibilities. Its goals are the same as those of every Islamic political organization, including those dubbed moderate. It seeks to restore and enforce an Islamic system in every part of the Muslim world before moving on to conquer and subjugate the non-Muslim world. If this were merely some fringe belief held by a tiny minority of extremists, then it could be bombed to pieces in some Syrian or Iraqi backwater.

But it’s the driving force of Islam. That’s why it won’t go away. No amount of appeasement will banish it.

Taking in more Muslim settlers, pressuring Israel and letting the Muslim Brotherhood colonize our foreign policy won’t do it. We’ve tried it and it actually makes Islamic terrorism much worse.

When the announcement is made, the usual suspects will pat themselves on the back for having defeated ISIS by mobilizing a Muslim coalition. But it wasn’t Obama who mobilized a Muslim coalition. The coalition, such as it was, mobilized them. Obama provided useful support to Islamic state sponsors of terror, such as Iran and Turkey, assorted Islamic Jihadists on the ground, some blatantly associated with Sunni and Shiite terror groups in their internal Jihadist conflict with ISIS over who will fight us.

The “allies” we are aiding today will be the ones bombing us tomorrow.

And that is why claiming credit for beating ISIS accomplishes nothing. ISIS is an expression of an Islamic impulse encoded in the Koran. Islamic groups differ in the tactical expression of that impulse. ISIS was nastier and uglier than most of the Islamic terror groups we had dealt with before this. Though even it found its Boko Haram affiliate in Nigeria occasionally a little too much to stomach.

If ISIS vanishes from the world stage, Islamic terrorism will be easier to dismiss. Or so the thinking goes. The Islamic State was better at viral videos than the media that tried to whitewash Islamic terror. It was hard to ignore. But a scattering of Islamic terror groups around the world will be forgotten by the public.

History suggests that’s wishful thinking.

Islamic terrorism has shown no signs of receding. Growing Muslim populations, both at home and in Muslim settlements in the West, and the increase in travel and communications, the infrastructure of globalism, spread it from the most backward to the most advanced parts of the world. Wealthy and unstable Muslim countries, rich in oil but poor in power, finance its spread through mosques and guns.

These are the ingredients that give us ISIS or any other combination or letters that stands for Islamic terror. To do anything meaningful about it, we would have to reverse the decline of the West.

Islam originally spread into a vacuum created by civilizational decline. Civilizational decline is why it is rising once again. An obscure local terror group eventually turned into ISIS by filling a power vacuum. Even as Obama performs another touchdown dance, some other group will be making that same journey. Its mission will be the familiar one of replacing our civilization with its own.

Until we come to terms with this civilizational struggle, we will go on fighting endless wars in the sand and coping with endless terror attacks in our own cities because we have failed to recognize the nature of the enemy. We are not fighting an acronym, whether it’s ISIS or ISIL; we are fighting an Islamic State.

This is a war to determine whether the future will belong to the West or to Islam.


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1 posted on 10/28/2016 4:23:34 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: Louis Foxwell

More importantly, what will replace the US if Hillary wins?


2 posted on 10/28/2016 4:24:35 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Louis Foxwell; daisy mae for the usa; AdvisorB; wizardoz; free-in-nyc; Vendome; Georgia Girl 2; ...

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3 posted on 10/28/2016 4:24:35 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell ( Trump is the collective voice of 100 million F U Â’s.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Finally! I been asking for weeks. What the hell will be the result after we “win”?


4 posted on 10/28/2016 4:34:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Precisely.
The rise of Brexit, Trump and nationalist and populist arties in Europe presage a devoutly oped for reversal of direction for the West. A Trump victory will solidify the direction in which the West is moving, toward strength and away from disintegration.
More than any election since the Civil War this election will determine the persistence of the USA as the bastion of freedom or its absolute demise.
Clinton may well stand for abortion on demand, sexual promiscuity, and absolute government authority. She does not offer any possibility of the continuation of Constitutional government in the US. She offers, instead, a final push for absolute tyranny.


5 posted on 10/28/2016 4:37:21 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell ( Trump is the collective voice of 100 million F U Â’s.)
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Let’s see...can we turn our previous success into future success? There used to be a violent group of Radicals that did terror bombings in Europe. The Red Brigade and affiliates. And we had our own Weather Underground. They quit building bombs and killing people. How did we defeat them?

OH, WE DIDN’T? THEY ARE THE ONES NOW RUNNING THINGS.


6 posted on 10/28/2016 4:40:47 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Until we come to terms with this civilizational struggle, we will go on fighting endless wars in the sand and coping with endless terror attacks in our own cities because we have failed to recognize the nature of the enemy.

Takes two to tango.

American citizens have also failed to recognize the nature of OUR 'elites'. The Middle East is corrupt but they have the money. Money that draws corrupt elites and greases their hands. American politicians like Clinton and her cronies grow fat and rich off Arab cash.

And the trade? What is the trade?

American elites trade the blood of our young for 'donations'... from countries too lazy to fight their own wars or shelter their own refugees.

7 posted on 10/28/2016 4:54:33 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "An honest public servant can't become rich in politics" - - President Harry S. Truman)
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To: Louis Foxwell; LucyT
Until we come to terms with this civilizational struggle, we will go on fighting endless wars in the sand and coping with endless terror attacks in our own cities because we have failed to recognize the nature of the enemy.

Takes two to tango.

American citizens have failed to recognize the nature of OUR 'elites'. The Middle East is corrupt but they have the money. Money that draws corrupt elites and greases their hands. American politicians like Clinton and her cronies grow fat and rich off Arab cash.

And the trade? What is the trade?

American elites trade the blood of our young for 'donations'... from countries too lazy to fight their own wars or shelter their own refugees.

8 posted on 10/28/2016 4:58:23 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "An honest public servant can't become rich in politics" - - President Harry S. Truman)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Good stuff.


9 posted on 10/28/2016 5:06:04 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Louis Foxwell
This is what has bothered me about all the "let's defeat ISIS" talk.

ISIS is merely a symptom...not the disease.

Islam is the disease.

10 posted on 10/28/2016 5:20:32 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Louis Foxwell

Haha. This is a fracking naive joke!!!! sis will replace democrats. Islamists are the only group of migrant with duty to vote for traitors in the US. Most other groups would eventually reject an invasion of their own original country of ethnicity, but not muslims!!!!

Obama never fought in earnest IsIs

This is the dark ages.


11 posted on 10/28/2016 5:21:23 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Louis Foxwell

!!!


12 posted on 10/28/2016 5:51:37 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Louis Foxwell

Just what I’ve been thinking. What would replace ISIS if they appear to have been defeated in the near future? Something similar, most likely. Once the secular dictators have been defeated, some form of Islamic fundamentalism is about all that is possible.


13 posted on 10/28/2016 6:51:40 AM PDT by Will88
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To: broken_arrow1
More importantly, what will replace the US if Hillary wins?

Hussein Obama, America's FIRST Muslim President, has already worked that out.

By flooding the US (and the west) with Muslims, Hussein has already determined that each Muslim admitted will grow into dozens or even hundreds of Muslims in the next few decades.

Muslims at first (a few % of the population) cause a few problems with infidel murders but overall, the presstitutes are able to hide the trends.

As the Muslim population increases, the peaceful Muslims demand they be judged by Sharia Law. When they kill their daughters for not being Muslim enough, Sharia Law will let them off.

As the population of Muslims increase, they then demand ALL citizens be judged by Sharia Law. Then the Muslims can demand those who refuse to convert be judged as they say, even possession of a Bible will bring a death sentence.

It's what Hussein Obama is working for. And Hillary Clinton will continue.

14 posted on 10/28/2016 7:13:55 AM PDT by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama is doing)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Love Greenfield... but.

China will replace Isis, with whatever it wants.
China has the means , the will, and the money to deal with Islam. And it can profit by doing so.

If one considers China “the West”, then Dan is accurate.


15 posted on 10/28/2016 7:20:00 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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16 posted on 10/28/2016 9:06:21 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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bkmk


17 posted on 10/28/2016 1:25:56 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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