Skip to comments.FL: Stand Your Ground Immunity for Firefighter who Answered Door with Gun in Hand
Posted on 01/13/2017 5:21:48 AM PST by marktwain
A judge dropped charges Wednesday against a Miam-Dade Fire captain who was arrested for pointing a gun at a police officer.The entire process, from the incident to the judge dismissing the charges took nine months. Prosecutors had charged the fire captain with aggravated assault of a law enforcement officer. The judge did not agree.
Nicholas Marian, 55, was granted Stand Your Ground immunity in a bizarre encounter with a Miami Shores police officer. Fellow firefighters who had been rallying behind Marian were at the courthouse celebrating the ruling.
Gates, dogs, security lights, and obstacles.
No wonder I never get any visitors.
Any knocks on my door after 9:00 PM usually sees me answering with my pistol in hand, out of view of whoever is on the front porch.
And to think that these people probably go into tremendous debt just to clear their names is sickening. They should all be reimbursed their attorney’s fees at the VERY least!
When I answer the door armed, it is in my hand which is behind my back. No sense going Full Monty from the get go.
Neither do I (get any visitors - other than my closest friends).
“Any knocks on my door after 9:00 PM usually sees me answering with my pistol in hand, out of view of whoever is on the front porch.”
You betcha. And, depending on what has recently happened to the man, it might take several seconds to process the uniform. I tend to focus on hands and eyes. In those first seconds they could be naked and I wouldn’t know.
Me and the wife live in NYC/USSR.
A few weeks ago, I arrived home after dark (7pm) to see her at the door, with the screen door open, talking to someone who said he was a detective.
He said there’d been a robbery in the neighborhood. He should me his badge and we said we saw nothing an he moved on.
We have a VERY secure inside door. The windows are Very secure. Vertical windows.
But if you OPEN THE DOOR, that all means nothing!!
I told her “dont EVER open the door to anyone!! Say “I’m sorry, you’ll have to come back”.
Especially my mother in law!!!
Another prudent action to take when answering the door with gun in hand is dial 911 and keep the line open for the duration of the encounter. If they are REAL cops their dispatcher will tell them to back off until their identity is confirmed over the phone to the homeowner.
I answer the door gun in hand 100% of the time, can’t say I have ever pointed at the person at the door though. I find the police statement that he “knew they were police” to be very disturbing. Claiming to know what is in someone’s mind is a slippery slope.
What's really disgusting is that the police charged him and the prosecutor didn't tell them to drop it. THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS
I have purchased Girl Scout cookies with a 9mm in my back pocket, refused magazine subscriptions, declined roof inspections, even had a nice chat with a Sheriff's deputy who was looking into a break-in next door.
There have been several shady people selling magazines or coupon books or cleaning products that set off some alarm bells. Then the gun stayed in my hand, and the hand out of sight. You can always tell when the meaning of that dawns on them. Their sales patter ends abruptly and they make a hasty exit. ;-)
You might blow a hole in your ass cheek:)
Series-lee, why put your ability to shoot quickly in check? I'm not saying that you should open the door with a quick three round burst, but if you feel threatened enough to have gun in hand, keep it in a position where you can quickly and easily use it. Behind your back ain't gonna git'er done.
If my doorbell rings after dark, my 1911 is in my right hand, secured behind my back with...
...chambered round and the safety off.
Keep in mind that ^anyone^ can go to a military-outlet-store or uniform provider and obtain clothing that resembles a police-officer uniform or simply enough “official-looking” layers to deceive.
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ISRA Thursday Bulletin - January 12, 2017
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR’S MESSAGE
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Congressmen Jeff Duncan (SC) and Congressmen John Carter (TX) have introduced the “The Duncan-Carter Hearing Protection Act” (H.R.367) in the U.S. House of Representatives. H.R. 367 would remove suppressors from the National Firearms Act, thereby eliminating the $200 transfer fee and other ridiculous burdens on law abiding citizens. Suppressors do not “silence” the discharge of firearms, nor do they stop the sound of the operation of the firearm of the supersonic crack associated with the bullet. What they do is protect the hearing of shooters and others from high decibels, which damage hearing. I recommend supporting this bill at the proper time. I will let you know.
In Georgia, two armed robbers tried to hold up the Top Nails Salon. One of the nail technicians proved she knew more than just how to do great nails when she engaged the gun-toting robbers with her own firearm. The police found one of the robbers hiding nearby with a hole in his butt. The police are still on the trail of the other one. Nail salons have been targets of robberies because criminals assume the people employed there can’t defend themselves. Thanks to concealed carry, more places are becoming hostile work environments for criminals, except Gun Free Zones, of course. Remember that.
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I agree, and I live in the boonies.
I want to see ID before I open the door. Not all people hear well. I’m one of them, no hearing aids, don’t hear much. Takes time to put the things in. Doors today are pretty solid with no noise from outside. I barely hear the door bell, especially at night when I’ve taken my hearing aids out, man you don’t sleep with those things in. No more than you sleep with your glasses on. Many meds make it hard to wake up with a clear mind too.
This was a stupid case. When he saw it was LEO he lowered his weapon and complied.
Answer the door and then step outside with the “officer”. Don’t allow the officer into your home; that is key!
At that point, outside and still on your property, provide the “officer” information that you have a weapon.
Everyone is happier for the occasion!
Nail and hair salons are targets because they are nearly all cash only businesses. In certain 'hoods the owners of such are well armed.
..police found one of the robbers hiding nearby with a hole in his butt...
Nailed his azz, they did.
“Answering the door with a gun in hand is often the prudent thing to do. “
I’ve done that a couple of times when it was the police. Fortunately I had the presence of mind to keep that hand behind the door.
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