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50,000 MORE H&K M27s for Marines: USMC Releases M27 IAR Sole Source Notice
The Firearm Blog ^ | August 12, 2017 | Nathaniel F

Posted on 08/21/2017 10:15:19 PM PDT by Perseverando


Original caption: "Marine Cpl. Alfredo Ibarra from Laredo, Texas, attached to the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, fires an M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR) during a combat-marksmanship program weapons exercise on the flight deck of the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland (LSD 48)." Image credit: US Navy, Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jonathan Clay, public domain.

The United States Marine Corps has issued a new acquisition notice for up to 50,814 M27 Infantry Automatic Rifles (IAR), to be sole sourced from Heckler & Koch. The notice is technically not a solicitation in and of itself, but a pre-solicitation notice, intended to give other companies the chance to submit their own proposals or bids if they think they can meet the same need at a lower cost. From the solication:

This notice of intent is not a request for competitive proposals. However, any responsible source who believes it is capable of meeting the requirement may submit a capability statement, proposal, or quotation, which shall be considered by the agency, only if received by the closing date and time of this notice. A determination not to compete the proposed requirement based upon the responses to this notice is solely within the discretion of the Government.

It is not yet known exactly what model will be procured under this contract. Since the delivery of the original M27 IAR, Heckler & Koch has produced a number of improved models of the HK416 rifle upon which the M27 is based. These models feature substantial differences from the original, for example an entirely new (and more industry standard) lower forging in the HK416A5. Whichever weapon these second batch M27s will be based upon, they will surely retain the same salient aspects of the original M27, including its heavy barrel and GI bayonet lug mount.

This news follows Marine Corps evaluations of the M27 IAR as a standard issue infantry rifle, issued to 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, as well as the release of an RFI for 11,000 new IARs. This new acquisition notice will no doubt raise further speculation that the Marine Corps is preparing to “pure-fleet” the M27 in replacement of the M4 Carbine, even as the Army is pursuing a new 7.62mm select fire rifle.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 7point62nato; banglist; hk; m27; marines; usmc
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1 posted on 08/21/2017 10:15:19 PM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Waiting to see how the US arms industry will influence Congress to stop this.


2 posted on 08/21/2017 10:18:14 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL - F*** A Bunch Of Liberals)
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To: Perseverando

The military needs a individual weapon than will penetrate level four armor.

Right now, armor is advancing faster than projectile weapons.


3 posted on 08/21/2017 10:20:19 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Kim Jon Un. Entered the world stage Unopposed, led Unapologetically, died Unidentified.)
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To: Seruzawa

No valid reason for them to do so.
HK has licensed production of their designs before, and having the weapons made in the United States should be on the table.

I bought an HK91 made in Brazil back in ‘84.


4 posted on 08/21/2017 10:23:16 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Perseverando

Members of the public should be able to freely purchase select-fire weapons such as this....it’s what the 2nd amendment was meant for.

My great grandpa once bought a Thompson machine gun and had it shipped to him by US Mail. This was before they assaulted the 2nd amendment :-/

My grandpa eventually sold it for a good bit of cash...because it was legally transferable with a 200 dollar fee... he said he wished his dad had bought a dozen of them.

I think he also had an old BAR, it may still be in a storage shed somewhere on his property.


5 posted on 08/21/2017 10:25:05 PM PDT by Bobalu (Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: Seruzawa
Here's an article from November 20, 2016: Will the Marine Corps Replace the M4 with the HK416? USMC Evaluates M27 IAR as Standard Issue Rifle
6 posted on 08/21/2017 10:26:47 PM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Bobalu

My father really liked his Thomson and his BAR he had in Korea.

He wondered how he carried that M1 up and down all that terrain.


7 posted on 08/21/2017 10:53:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: SaveFerris

Dang it - Thompson


8 posted on 08/21/2017 10:55:26 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: SaveFerris

Those are heavy guns...and I’d want to carry plenty of ammo as well.

I’d have wanted a Thompson with lots of clips and even a drum or two...and a 911 since they use the same ammo.

The Garand isn’t full auto but is very well built.


9 posted on 08/21/2017 11:38:25 PM PDT by Bobalu (Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: Bobalu

When all else failed in North Korea, Dad went with his Primacord and stuff, lol.


10 posted on 08/21/2017 11:49:07 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: SaveFerris

Everyone I have ever known who went to Korea said it was hell.

Especially after the Chinese came in and Truman wouldn’t let MacArthur chase them back into China.


11 posted on 08/21/2017 11:59:17 PM PDT by Bobalu (Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: Bobalu

Extraordinary men doing extraordinary things. Unbelievable.


12 posted on 08/22/2017 12:01:10 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: SaveFerris

God bless your dad!

If he is still alive tell him I said so :-)


13 posted on 08/22/2017 12:22:17 AM PDT by Bobalu (Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: Bobalu

“I think he also had an old BAR, it may still be in a storage shed somewhere on his property.”

If you send me the location I’ll help you find it. :)


14 posted on 08/22/2017 3:13:02 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: SaveFerris

“He wondered how he carried that M1 up and down all that terrain.”

It’s not hard when you dont have the burden of body armor. :-)


15 posted on 08/22/2017 3:56:00 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Perseverando
It's an AR with a piston instead of gas impingement. Everybody is making them now. I'm sure someone will beat the $3000 tag.

I put one together a few years ago for $700.

16 posted on 08/22/2017 4:03:46 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Molon Labbie
Right now, armor is advancing faster than projectile weapons.

Well,that's why God created the head shot.

17 posted on 08/22/2017 4:18:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Bobalu

“Members of the public should be able to freely purchase select-fire weapons such as this....it’s what the 2nd amendment was meant for.”

Eh, a $200 tax stamp isn’t much of an impediment after almost 100 years of inflation. It does make it harder for the wrong elements to easily get them - do we really need Antifa armed with fully automatic weapons?

All that said, full auto is vastly overrated anyhow. The armed forces may be able to afford and supply the vast quantities of ammo required, but in almost all situations semi-auto, aimed fire is far more effective. Three rounds a second of aimed fire easily beats twenty rounds a second of “spray and pray”.


18 posted on 08/22/2017 4:44:53 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

$200 tax means nothing now that it’s illegal to own one made after 1986.
Prices of old used transferrable MGs are >20x what new would be if not for 922(o).


19 posted on 08/22/2017 5:12:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Bobalu

Thank you. Lost him (and eventually) mom several years ago.

Life was better when they were around.


20 posted on 08/22/2017 9:33:41 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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