Posted on 09/18/2017 8:53:14 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
<>Virtue or morality,” George Washington observed, “is a necessary spring of popular government.”<>
That is pure Charles De Montesquieu. Good on GW.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Patriots, please consider the following. As a consequence of the Constitution not being taught for many generations, at least as the Founding States had intended for it to be understood, people can't even ask relevant questions about the USA and religion.
More specifically, regardless what FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist majority Supreme Court justices wanted everybody to think about Thomas Jefferson’s “wall of separation,” the real Thomas Jefferson had indicated the following.
The Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to help clarify that they had reserved the power to regulate our 1st Amendment-protected freedoms for example, uniquely to the states, regardless that the founders had made 1A to prohibit such powers to Congress.
”3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that -the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people-: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed [emphasis added]; . . . “ - Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798 .
Regardless that the 14th Amendment (14A) now reasonably limits the power of the states to regulate religion, some patriots still don't seem to understand the following. Although the states can still make religion-related laws, the federal government now has the 14A power to protect citizens from unreasonable abridgment of constitutionally enumerated protections, including abridgment of religious expression by the states.
H O W E V E R !!!
The MAJOR problem with Congress strengthening 1A-protected religious expression is this. The current Congress is basically the same Christian-hating Congress that let lawless Obama get away with not only stealing state powers to regulate religious issues, but then using those stolen powers to establish unconstitutional federal polices to harass Christians.
And regardless that Congress's "useful idiot" Obama is gone, the incumbent Congress is still letting activist states get away harassing citizens who exercise their freedom of religious expression.
Getting back to the title of this thread, and noting that the Constitution isn’t perfect regardless that it is amendable, to the best of my understanding at this time, not only do the states still have the power to regulate religion, but they can probably get away with making laws that favor, even if only slightly, the religion of the majority voters in a given state.
Corrections, insights welcome.
Switching the emphasis of this thread to Pres. Trump, although he is accomplishing a LOT as president, it remains that since the Christian-hating uniparty Congress wants to get rid of him that his first two years in office are arguably for practice. That being said ...
Drain the swamp sewer! Drain the sewer!
Remember in November 2018 !
Since corrupt Congress is the biggest part of the sewer (imo) that Trump wants to drain, it is actually up to us patriots to drain the sewer in the 2018 elections, patriots supporting Trump by electing as many new members of Congress as they can who will support Trump.
In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting candidates on the primary ballots.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.
Patriots also need to make sure that candidates are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed here.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Also, unlike career members of Congress who wrongly remained silent while misguided state officials abridged the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens during the lawless Obama Administration, patriots need to make sure that candidates on the 2018 primary ballots commit to the following.
Candidates need to commit to making and enforcing 14th Amendment-related laws to prosecute misguided state officials who use state powers to abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, 1st Amendment-protected religious expression and free speech for example, such actions prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.
”14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Again, drain the sewer! Drain the sewer!
Secularism is a religion imho. Look at how the left describes people who disagree with them as evil. To those of us on this forum, we can hold the belief that we can agree to disagree. But to those secular fundamentalists, we are infidels. The intolerant left will have us all in re-education camps if they get complete power.
Just as Divine Providence anointed our leaders then, so is Divine Providence punishing America now with leaders in all phases of life that share mass psychosis. God has hardened Pharaoh’s heart.
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