Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What if Ken Starr Was Right?
NYT ^ | 11/18/17 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 11/18/2017 10:13:48 PM PST by Kartographer

But a moment of reassessment is a good time to reassess things for yourself, so I spent this week reading about the lost world of the 1990s. I skimmed the Starr Report. I leafed through books by George Stephanopoulos and Joe Klein and Michael Isikoff. I dug into Troopergate and Whitewater and other first-term scandals. I reacquainted myself with Gennifer Flowers and Webb Hubbell, James Riady and Marc Rich.

After doing all this reading, I’m not sure my reasonable middle ground is actually reasonable. It may be that the conservatives of the 1990s were simply right about Clinton, that once he failed to resign he really deserved to be impeached.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: broaddrick; clintoon; flowers; hubbell; marcrich; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills; rossdouthat; starr; troopergate; whitewater
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-72 next last
WELL DUH!!!
1 posted on 11/18/2017 10:13:48 PM PST by Kartographer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
Douthat can write a valuable story - but this is not it. Those of us who read American
Spectator, the books by Tyrrell & the Secret Service guy, Troopergate, Whitewater, we
know what happened. The Left will never revisit these years. Douthat will because he has
a moral compass. But who else?
2 posted on 11/18/2017 10:25:24 PM PST by jobim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

Eat sh*t, Dourhat, you rat bastard. Every honest person knew at the time that Starr, Broderick, Jones, etc were right. The elite’s studies “reexamination” just shows how disgusting and dishonest they were at the time.


3 posted on 11/18/2017 10:25:37 PM PST by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

As Hillary once said... it “will slowly dissipate over time under the weight of its own insubstantiality.”

MUHAHA... The vast right wing conspiracy has actually turned out to be the vast left wing conspiracy to ignore all negativity toward the Clinton’s and Democrats in general, but that conspiracy ‘over time’ is starting to unravel with each passing year.


4 posted on 11/18/2017 10:26:22 PM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
The long knives are out for the Clintons. Seems that the dem party is absolutely not going to allow her to suck all the air out of the room anymore. I assume Obama's people are behind it. They want to pick the next nominee and they want to formulate the strategy for 2018 and 2020 without Hillary messing it all up again. So they have taken advantage of the current #metoo witch hunt to take out Bill Clinton. I mean 20 years later liberals wonder if Ken Starr was right? That's not just something they woke up and wondered about. There's an organized push to take out the Clintons.

But there's an old expression that if you aim to take out the king, you'd best not miss. It will be interesting to see how Bill (forget Hillary) handles getting his own legacy dragged through the mud and his pratorian guard of party hacks and media types suddenly turned on him.

5 posted on 11/18/2017 10:28:44 PM PST by pepsi_junkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pepsi_junkie

don’t see BC having the motivation to care. Also brazile et co have calculated for that


6 posted on 11/18/2017 10:50:59 PM PST by stanne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

These crocodile tears.

Worse, though, are GOPe who now say it was a mistake to impeach Clinton, though they supported it at the time.


7 posted on 11/18/2017 11:01:02 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer; jobim; j.havenfarm; jerod; pepsi_junkie; stanne
"Would any feminist hesitate today to take a similar opportunity to remove a predatory studio head or C.E.O?"

1. The answer is that no feminist would hesitate to take an opportunity to remove a predatory studio head or C.E.O.

2. On the other hand, I do not see feminists marching boldly forward to remove Al Franken. After all, he is a strong supporter of women's rights and abortion.

Nice try though idiot Douthat.

8 posted on 11/18/2017 11:01:55 PM PST by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

NY Times...

Funny!

They would put this in micro print inside of the cartoon section, just to say they did cover the Clinton criminal network from decades past, as a rebuttal for leftist to be able to say - YES, the NYT did to cover those Clinton related issues.

Regardless, the NY Times is a far left anti-American propaganda outlet, meaning the NY Times is purely angling.


9 posted on 11/18/2017 11:03:56 PM PST by patriotfury (May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tent!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stanne

Haven’t seen much of either one.

I’m beginning to think one or both of them are so ill they couldn’t fight back anyway.


10 posted on 11/18/2017 11:05:28 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

There is a coordinated effort to take the Clintons down throughout the media. Almost certainly orchestrated by Obama Jarrett and the DC establishment, despite DNC head Tom Perez being a Clinton stooge. Why the sudden 180 from worship to warship?

Has the DNC figured out that Hillary is demanding to be the nominee in 2020, and that she is a bad candidate?

Maybe the DC establishment has heard that Hillary will be indicted soon, and want to distance themselves?

Or do they really believe that if they sacrifice Bill, they will be able to pressure Trump to resign over the false accusations made in the dossier?

All three?

11 posted on 11/18/2017 11:14:03 PM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

They are only reassessing their views because they now want the Obamas to be the face of the Democrat Party going forward. We might even be able to “lock her up” without the press even retaliating that hard. So “lock her up now”, and then go after the Obamas.


12 posted on 11/18/2017 11:14:21 PM PST by Robert DeLong
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
Would any feminist today hesitate to take a similar opportunity to remove a predatory studio head or C.E.O.?

Yes, actually, she would and has. For example, the one who said that Al Franken should be given a pass for blatant and photographed sexual harassment because he's a Democrat. They did it then, they've been doing it since, and they're doing it now.

But the Clinton operation was also extraordinarily sordid, in ways that should be thrown into particular relief by the absence of similar scandals in the Obama administration...

...who is behind this article and the recent attacks on Hillary. Douthat is still a tool, his bosses have simply turned him in another direction and it's business as usual.

And what they did instead — turning their party into an accessory to Clinton’s appetites, shamelessly abandoning feminist principle, smearing victims and blithely ignoring his most credible accuser...feels in the cold clarity of hindsight like a great act of partisan deformation.

That would be 20-year-old hindsight, wouldn't it? Justice delayed is justice denied, which was never truer than this case. "We got away with it but now we're sorry" doesn't cut it.

For which, it’s safe to say, we have all been amply punished since.

How so? By a public rejection of, and disgust at, a woman who had the temerity to claim that she was destiny's child despite all the lies and the corruption in a lifetime of abuse of political office? A little disappointment does not constitute punishment. And twenty years hence we may well be reading another hindsight article admitting that yeah, maybe she did take massive bribes to betray her office and her country and really was unworthy of the Presidency but entirely worthy of prison, but we were distracted by those mean Republicans being too partisan and so we let her slide but we're sorry now. Utter garbage, in short, and so is this.

13 posted on 11/18/2017 11:30:13 PM PST by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
Douthat: Yes, the Republicans were too partisan, the Starr Report was too prurient and Clinton’s haters generated various absurd conspiracy theories.

No, no, no haters and no. This guy has no clue.
14 posted on 11/19/2017 12:01:37 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

bttt


15 posted on 11/19/2017 12:16:59 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

bttt


16 posted on 11/19/2017 12:18:11 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

The Democrats are signaling its time to discard the Clintons.

The Democrats finally realize the Clintons are more of a liability.

It most likely being orchestrated by the Obamas that are even further Left than the Clintons.


17 posted on 11/19/2017 12:39:48 AM PST by Enlightened1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

Next up: libs calling on Stephanapolous to resign from ABC


18 posted on 11/19/2017 1:11:26 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer
Star was playing softball in my opinion. He allowed the Democrats to dump a corrupted politician with an easy change against him. Democrats refused.

Star could have gave murder charges against them. He should've.

19 posted on 11/19/2017 1:21:38 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

The ONLY reason ANY of them are talking about “we were wrong -— we should have believed Bill’s victims”, is so they can turn it around and try to make the allegations against Trump and Roy Moore be “believed”. But the fact is, Bill really did assault and rape multiple women, then he, Hillary, and his agents, including the MSM, bullied, intimidated, threatened, covered for, and lied about his victims. How stupid do they think we are?


20 posted on 11/19/2017 1:21:49 AM PST by Flaming Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-72 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson