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Michael Flynn was entrapped by an FBI agent with an ax to grind
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-25-18 | DrJohn

Posted on 01/25/2018 10:17:45 AM PST by Starman417

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To: struggle; Starman417

The thing I notice is that there is zero news on the status of Flynn’s plea. The judge recused or was forced to recuse himself and the sentencing hearing canceled.

Was it ever rescheduled? With which judge? The fact that this activity has disappeared into a black hole is curious.


21 posted on 01/25/2018 12:30:49 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Must pardon Flynn


22 posted on 01/25/2018 12:31:47 PM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Miranda rules only apply if you’re being arrested.

Flynn was not being arrested, he was only being “interviewed.”


23 posted on 01/25/2018 12:46:20 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Starman417

It seems there is no shortage of military higher ups that have proven to be dumber than the average infantrymen after a few rounds of battle.

Sad to see how many of them then are called to act as advisers and confidantes to politicos seeking their knowledge and insight.


24 posted on 01/25/2018 2:33:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: Starman417

Military people are used to dealing with evil at the end of their rifle barrel. They are not used to dealing with evil within the “team”.


25 posted on 01/25/2018 4:20:55 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Starman417; struggle; Sacajaweau; BigEdLB; Texas Fossil; Revolutionary; NormsRevenge; mojito; ...

It has been discussed that Flynn can withdraw his plea based on the actions of Strzok. Does anyone remember the law or case that was cited?


26 posted on 01/26/2018 8:01:24 AM PST by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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It has been discussed that Flynn can withdraw his plea based on the actions of Strzok. Does anyone remember the law or case that was cited?

I would think "fruit of a poisoned tree" is a very good legal argument to get his conviction thrown out.

27 posted on 01/26/2018 8:24:05 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

True, but I remember it as being something else besides the fruit of the poisonous tree. There was a lawyer who cited something about a situation where the investigator had a conflict of interest and should not have been the one to interview the suspect. That’s as best as I can recall.


28 posted on 01/26/2018 8:31:15 AM PST by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise; Valpal1

Giglio vs. United States is the case widely quoted as providing Flynn with the exculpatory evidence able to exonerate him. Namely:

1. Strzok interviewed Flynn, and his testimony of Flynn’s perjury led to the grand jury to indict him.
2. Strzok was removed from the Mueller’s team for obvious conflicts, and this was not revealed to the grand jury during indictment, which deprived Flynn of due process by removing exculpatory evidence.

This probably applied to all three other clients as well. I believe the judge in charge now is biding time and waiting for several actions, as Mueller’s team may self-destruct and Mueller may just throw in the towel, file for dismissal, and call it a day. Both Gates and Manafort have a civil suit against Mueller for over-prosecution (they raided Manafort’s house regardless of the fact that he provided everything that was requested) and malfeasance.

It all hinges on this memo, but yes, it seems all four will go free if the grand jury was not notified of Strzok’s dismissal and Strzok was the one that generated the charges for indictment.


29 posted on 01/26/2018 9:26:29 AM PST by struggle
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To: struggle

Thank you VERY much my FRiend!


30 posted on 01/26/2018 9:32:46 AM PST by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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To: struggle

In addition to this, you have prosecutors leaking to the press and using unsecure email for lord knows what reason. Mueller’s got to realize this investigation is over.


31 posted on 01/26/2018 9:35:12 AM PST by struggle
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Little people like us wouldn’t understand it because we don’t have the underlying methodology. And stuff.


32 posted on 01/26/2018 9:40:10 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Political Junkie Too
Miranda is narrow - it only attaches at the point of taking into custody, or arrest. before that the government can do anything it wants to anybody, including lying to them in order to elicit statements.

There is no across-the-board requirement to "Mirandize" people before questioning them or taking statements from them.

Exercizing your fifth amendment right will almost inevitably be followed by hassle from the cops. And too, keep in mind that the fifth amendment is only valid when the statement can incriminate the speaker. That was of course true in Flynn's case, his statement was about his own actions.

33 posted on 01/26/2018 9:45:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Valpal1
Black hole indeed. The case number is 1:17-cr-00232-rc, in the Federal Disctrict Court in the District of Columbia.

The inforamtion, plea agreement and afew other interesting papers are easily found online, but the docket is not. This is the case that the jugde changed midstream - an unexplained recusal.

Dirty as sin. I mean the courts are too, for their lack of transparency.

34 posted on 01/26/2018 10:07:09 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: struggle
I don't know that (or think, but haven't studied it) that Giglio applies to what is present to a GJ. GJ's can be mislead with impunity to the prosecutor. It is up to the defendant to argue based on Giglio and (there is another exculpatory evidence case, I forget the name) require the prosecutor to provide the defendant with all that.

Not to say that Giglio doesn't apply. Just that it doesn't apply as against the GJ. They can charge based on a lie even, and it's up to the defendant to argue. The prosecutor has to give the defendant all that info, not the GJ.

Otherwise, great post. Thanks.

35 posted on 01/26/2018 10:12:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: BigEdLB

I believe in the end, President Trump will pardon Gen. Flynn. It make take months or years but in meantime, we will continue to see people beating up on a good man who served our country with honor.


36 posted on 01/26/2018 10:41:25 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Cboldt

Are defendants allowed an attorney in front of a GJ?


37 posted on 01/26/2018 10:56:43 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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-- Are defendants allowed an attorney in front of a GJ? --

Nope. But defendants are rarely part of the parade before a GJ. The GJ is all about inculpatory evidence and exclusion of excuplatory evidence. The point of GJ is to get indictments, not exonerations. If a prosecutor wants to exonerate somebody, they just don't bring the case to a GJ. Prosecutorial discretion.

38 posted on 01/26/2018 11:39:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

OK Thanks


39 posted on 01/26/2018 12:59:33 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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