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Incels embrace Capital Gazette shooter — but only after they learn he harassed a woman
We Hunted the Mammoth ^ | June 30, 2018 | David Futrelle

Posted on 07/02/2018 4:01:50 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

By David Futrelle

Several hours after the news broke that a gunman had shot five people dead at the Capital Gazette newspaper offices in Annapolis, Maryland, but before we knew much of anything about the shooter himself, I took a look at the forums on Incels.me to see if anyone on the site was saying anything about this latest mass killing.

Incels, after all, have an almost reflexive tendency to praise or excuse anyone who kills a high enough number of the “normies” incels consider their sworn enemies, and many of them worship incel mass killer Elliot Rodger as a virtual saint.

But no one there seemed much interested in this particular killer. “[P]rolly some political kind of shit given that it’s a newspaper,” wrote someone called mutant in a not-very-busy thread on the topic, “really it’s only normals who care about left v right.”

Several hours later, we learned that the Annapolis shooter’s anger at the media — and at the Capital Gazette — had its roots in the newspaper’s coverage of his conviction for harassing a former high-school classmate on Facebook. Though she didn’t remember going to school with him, she told the paper, she tried to be nice because it seemed like he was having a rough time. But he quickly turned on her, allegedly bombarding her with threats and trying to get her fired from her job. Ultimately, the future shooter pleaded guilty to pleaded guilty to one count of harassment — and then started directing his ire at the Capital Gazette for having the gall to write about his case in a way he thought was unfair. (A court disagreed, dismissing his defamation suit against the paper.)

Well, this bit of news woke the murder fans on Incels.me right up, and soon they were hailing the Capital Gazette shooter as a new hero.

“Praise the saint,” wrote someone called JeffGoldblumInTheFly.

“When will he be canonised?” asked AfrikanCel.

“The newspaper was bullying him for being incel and Jarrod Ramos stood up to his bullies,” added incel4life. ” Jarrod Ramos is a hero.”

“Bless His Heart,” agreed doktordoom, “death to the media.”

A few of the commenters wondered if their new hero had managed to kill any “femoids” — that is, women — in his rampage.

“Did he score at least one femoid frag?” asked the aptly named evildoer.

In fact, he killed two women. “I don’t condone shootings,” noted someone called Jackson14, “but anyways looking at the victims one was a Stacy.”

This last assertion proved somewhat controversial, because the possible “Stacy” in question was a bit older than most incels consider ideal. “Maybe Stacy from 30 years ago,” grumbled Notgoingtomakeit.

“Come on man you don’t think she is hot?” Jackson14 asked.

Not everyone on the incels.me forums considers Ramos a saint, though. Someone called AR15 was unimpressed with his body count. “Weak score tbh,” he sniffed.

Others were unimpressed with his looks. “Homeboy look like a Lamb Of God tribute act :lul: ,” wrote one. “He legit looks like an egg.” added another.

Somehow I suspect that all the “sex redistribution” in the world wouldn’t transform any of these guys into actual decent people. It would just put more women at risk.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Local News; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: capitalgazette; freakstate; incels; jarrodramos; killerworshipers; maryland; misogyny; sickos
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To: elcid1970

I just said that exact same thing!

I should read the whole thread first!


41 posted on 07/02/2018 7:06:57 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Get off my lawn and GTFO of my country.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Yeah, someone else told me that, too. I’m now straight and single. And here I thought “bachelor” was a benign term.


42 posted on 07/02/2018 7:11:11 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: mquinn
We have have talked about these very facts for years on FR.

And yet, some chump on here is scratching his head saying "I don't know what this is all about, nor do I want too."

Y E A R S.

43 posted on 07/02/2018 7:17:33 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Didn’t you know that a bachelor party just before a wedding day was the day a guy went from being gay to bi?

(Me either. A bachelor is an unmarried male.)


44 posted on 07/02/2018 7:23:57 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: All

If these incels wanted to nest with the political right or left, I think they would be equally unwelcome and more to the point, their cause is largely apolitical in nature.

Has to be about a 99% male organization in any case, the idea of an involuntary celibate woman is ridiculous on the face of it.


45 posted on 07/02/2018 7:48:20 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Respect the law, enforce the law, improve the law -- and encourage leftists to meditate 24/7/365)
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To: petitfour
(Me either. A bachelor is an unmarried male.)

That's what I thought. I told a woman I was a bachelor the other day. She said there was nothing wrong with that. Now I know her reply could have had more than one meaning.

(I asked her out for coffee. She said, "I don't know; I'll have to think about that." I guess that's a form of being let down gently.)

46 posted on 07/02/2018 7:48:31 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Peter ODonnell
I wouldn't say they were apolitical, but I would say they are definitely a symptom of a decaying western world were at one time all men of all rank and caliber(1 - 10) had the opportunity to marry a woman of his rank and caliber.

But feminism and the sexual revolution has altered that plain old scenario and the 1 - 4 women are throwing themselves at the 5 - 10 ranked men without any commitment to marriage, which leaves the 1 - 4 men without any options of marriage, family and procreation.

Some of those 1 - 4 men have given up trying. It doesn't help our society to ignore that it is going on. And it certainly doesn't help society as a whole to ignore the possibility that this involuntary celibacy has a profound effect on the young men out there and what it does to them mentally.

47 posted on 07/02/2018 8:21:55 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: deadrock

As I understand it, at the bar scene, roughly 80 percent of the women throw themselves at the top 20 percent of men. I don’t believe all young women are like that; I see plenty of young couples walking around holding hands. Plenty of people still get married, too, although whether those marriages are destined to last, I have no idea.


48 posted on 07/02/2018 8:25:25 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: deadrock

Some of the incels are role-playing. You find that a lot in anonymous forums.
Some of them are “priests”. They consider themselves hetero but they only have sex with men. They consider sex outside marriage with women to be immoral. I have a close friend who is gay and he had a boyfriend who was married. The married guy trashed women as “sluts and golddiggers”. Except for his wife and daughter of course. But her sisters were tramps.


49 posted on 07/02/2018 8:31:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And the sociological, physiological and mental damage it does to the participants.


50 posted on 07/02/2018 8:39:39 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The 80/20 rule is true, no doubt.

And a marriage could form with a sexually worn out 1 - 4 to a beta 1 - 4 male. But her addiction to the @ock Carousel will not lessen after getting married, thus divorce and she takes half. Adding more pressure on the incel to ignore women and financial ruin(another can of words for another thread).

But what worries me more is that on FR, the land of the open mind and amateur philosopher, most refuse to even consider that this modern phenomenon has terrible ramifications for our society and it should only be pointed at and laugh at. Keep that in mind when another incel storms the school yard with armed insurrection on his mind.

51 posted on 07/02/2018 8:40:27 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: AppyPappy

All true, FRiend. But it does not chance my point.


52 posted on 07/02/2018 8:45:17 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: moovova
Is George Costanza in incel?


53 posted on 07/02/2018 8:52:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Wonderful theory, wrong species)
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To: deadrock

I agree. The old way — the societal expectation that people should get their @$$es married and stay married — was better.

The incel phonomenon’s roots could also partially explain the rampant jihad in polygynous Moslem societies.


54 posted on 07/02/2018 8:55:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The incel phonomenon’s roots could also partially explain the rampant jihad in polygynous Moslem societies.

It is weird if you think about it because they have had no attack of toxic feminism on their societal order. There are just not enough first cousin females to go around.

In the west, it is very difficult to understand the problem, harder to come up with workable solutions.

55 posted on 07/02/2018 9:04:31 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: deadrock

Free Republic is hardly a bastion of sexual morality, nor does it try to be.
At one time this place was home to an active “moral absolutes” ping list.

Basically the site moderators strangled that part of the community over its insistence that adults having sex with minors is always wrong. The libertinarians hate that insistence.


56 posted on 07/02/2018 9:10:19 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd

I get what you are saying, but sexual morality was not the main thrust of my post.


57 posted on 07/02/2018 11:41:34 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: MrEdd

That’s sick. I’ve fallen for much younger women before, but they have always been adults.


58 posted on 07/02/2018 11:56:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: deadrock

And that, among other reasons, is why we all need Jesus.


59 posted on 07/02/2018 11:57:51 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Note: incel was originally a term describing all involuntary celibates.

With the availability of prostitutes, it becomes a matter of choice. If for ethical or religious reasons they decline the opportunity, their celibacy is no longer involuntary. May God comfort those who choose to follow His law.

60 posted on 07/02/2018 12:41:53 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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