Skip to comments.Dual Wield pistols vs Single Pistol
Posted on 10/03/2018 5:04:50 AM PDT by w1n1
Larry Vickers and his buddy Dave Royer were out testing a firearm myths whether dual-wielding versus using sight alignment with a single pistol is better.
Seen all the time in the movies Dave and Larry are out to show you what really happens when you fire two pistols at the same time.
They start the test with stationary shooting at multiple targets. (5 targets) Dual shooting (using H&K .45 Compact and a custom Colt 1911) was going from inside targets to outside targets. Single pistol shooting went from left to right. The result for dual shooting was at 2.8 seconds and 3.73 seconds for single pistol. Dual shooting was faster but not as accurate as with single pistol. However, for this test single pistol shooting with good sight alignment wins the accuracy test.
Starts out at a walk towards the target from 30 yards out and at the sound of a buzzer. Shooter engages the target while still moving forward. Dual pistols will be alternate shots between left and right. Single pistol lay down some lead rapidly. The verdict single pistol wins with accuracy and speed on this drill. See the footage of dual wield pistols.
FRONT SIGHT YOU (bleeping) IDIOT!!!
Everything else is just B.S.
Skewed results - he’s holding the one in his right hand wrong.
If he wants to shoot movie style, he needs to hold it sideways.
My young nephew came out to the farm last Spring for a week and one thing he wanted to do was shoot this way. Dual wield. He had to explain the term to me.
After I got finished laughing I grabbed a couple of 1911s and some loaded magazines and we went to the back range.
He version was firing both simultaneously - none of this right hand-left hand-right hand stuff.
15 yards, 18 rounds - he didn't hit a thing.
In my drills I did find an effective way of dual-wielding pistols, and it even fit into a tactic.
I had a single stack Bersa and a double stack one. The double stack in my left hand and the single in my right (I’m righthanded)
I know I don’t hit things with my left hand. I practice weak handed but if I actually shoot a target with my left hand that means I’m so close I could just poke it with a pencil anyway.
By laying down a controlled cover fire with my left hand (Not even sighting it) and then using my right hand to place correct and more accurate shots I think I could keep people down and in a cover position while moving to another location, or identifying a target that is protected with cover fire and getting at him while making life really complex for anyone who is covering that target.
But this is all mental masturbation. What the exercise DID do is get my heart pumping which hasn’t happened in a while at my range.
Until I forgot my ear protection and took my AR pistol into the woods. That got my heart pumping too but probably just to replace the blood that was leaking out of my poor ears (I kid)
Suppressing fire with a pair of pistols is something I'd expect him to advocate and he, of course, has developed the Larry Vickers Super-Sight Tactical Oriented Intra-urban Suburban 2-eyes open Poke and Hope sights...just for you, for the munificent sum of only $1800.00 per sight.
(Installation not included.)
Sideways is best, yes, but with crossed arms. That way you have a larger field of fire covered. Ask Jack Bauer, he knows all this stuff.
I toyed with the dual wield with a pair of 1911 .45’s more than a few times. My biggest takeaway was brace yourself. 16rds of .45 in rapid succession will really move you around and you won’t hit didley-squat.
You can slow your rate of fire and do a little better. Having a spare is fine if you want all that extra weight, but you can’t beat firing from your dominant hand.
I practiced with my left hand for years (1000+rds a week) and got to be almoat as good with it
I can point shoot well with my right and better than most people can aim so what you qere doing can make sense and be very effective—IF you are willing and able to put in the practice time and there are no shortcuts
One of my instructors constantly practices with his Left hand. Says he knew someone (law enforcement) who needed to defend himself from an awkward position that necessitated using his other hand and his practice saved his life.
Yep...and when you are spending 10+ hours a week shooting why not?
Downside was spending 20+ hours a week cranking the progressive press to feed the habit
I can shoot well lefty as well, but I’m also pretty ambidextrous. I agree with you on point shooting, I shoot a lot, and have for 40 years with a .45 and I have won a few bets by taping over my sights and outshooting guys at 10 yards, usually on empty shotgun shells on the ground. I can’t do it lefty however, probably due to eye dominance. When someone asks me how, I just ask them to lock on a target and point at it, then look at the sights and tell me where they are pointing. It’s an eye opener, if your trigger pull is smooth and clean it’s easy to shoot without sights.....as a disclaimer I can’t do it with a DA revolver, grip angle is wrong, I shoot over everything!
I first started with 22s and moved to revolvers..primarily gp100 and bisly framed vaquero
I also found that just pointing and trying to learn to not move it while getting a sight picture of what you were really pointed at helps
As far as DA revolvers...choke up on the grip and hold higher up on than you are used to...learned a lot from Ed Mcgiverns book...horribly written but a huge wealth of information and techniques to practice..probably improved my ability by a factor of 5 just going through it
That too is my experience in that it isnt an issue with being too weak as much as training the brain to use the wrong eye.
Hit wrong button...yes was trying to say in second line that what you were describing really does work....ive also practiced pointing from hip and other positions...started that with an air pistol and moved up
My son is a new officer and I told him I would smack him if I saw him holding his weapon gangster style. He was taught to hold it ready to aim and hit your target. Do you want to look cool or win the gunfight if you have one is the question. I also taught him point shooting at close range.
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