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How A Mysterious Tech Billionaire Created Two Fortunes—And A Global Software Sweatshop
Forbes ^ | November 19, 2018 | Nathan Vardi

Posted on 11/19/2018 10:13:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

From an office suite on the 26th floor of the iconic Frost Bank Tower in Austin, Texas, a little-known recruiting firm called Crossover is searching the globe for software engineers. Crossover is looking for anyone who can commit to a 40- or 50-hour workweek, but it has no interest in full-time employees. It wants contract workers who are willing to toil from their homes or even in local cafes.

“The best people in the world aren’t in your Zip code,” says Andy Tryba, chief executive of Crossover, in a promotional YouTube video. Which, Tryba emphasizes, also means you don’t have to pay them like they are your neighbors. “The world is going to a cloud wage.”

Tryba’s video has 61,717 views, but he is no random YouTube proselytizer. He worked in sales at Intel for 14 years before serving in the White House as an advisor to President Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. Since 2014, Tryba has been the right-hand man of Joe Liemandt, one of the most mysterious and innovative figures in technology.

In the 1990s Liemandt was the golden boy of enterprise software, a 30 Under 30 wunderkind before there was a Forbes 30 Under 30 list. Like Bill Gates before him, he dropped out of college, in his case Stanford, to start a company, Trilogy, and build his fortune. In 1996, at the age of 27, he made the cover of Forbes, and a few months later he appeared as the youngest self-made member of The Forbes 400, with a $500 million net worth....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; History
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1 posted on 11/19/2018 10:13:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The name is very close to another sweatshop software shop in south Florida. I have several friends that used to work with me at a former employer that currently works there and they all say it’s horrible.


2 posted on 11/19/2018 10:18:19 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTW just exactly is a CLOUD WAGE? $13.50/ HR?


3 posted on 11/19/2018 10:19:44 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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Well he did work for Obama, so his attitude seems like the last administration.


4 posted on 11/19/2018 10:33:45 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
"The world is going to a cloud wage." ... He worked in sales at Intel for 14 years before serving in the White House as an advisor to President Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. Since 2014, Tryba has been the right-hand man of Joe Liemandt, one of the most mysterious and innovative figures in technology.

5 posted on 11/19/2018 10:34:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: prophetic
We used to call software that wasn't developed yet 'Vaporware'.

Maybe Cloud wages are Vapor wages.

6 posted on 11/19/2018 10:40:13 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: prophetic

Code word for Indian programmers.


7 posted on 11/19/2018 10:43:27 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“The world is going to a cloud wage.”

That wraps it up for California then.

8 posted on 11/19/2018 10:45:03 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: prophetic

Probably more like $13.50/day. :)


9 posted on 11/19/2018 10:46:49 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: ClayinVA

Until they can automate the process to the point of not needing workers at all.


10 posted on 11/19/2018 11:12:22 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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Reminds me of a frequent job posting for a certain notorious software company here in South Florida.

They frequently posts a job description for a certain position and it often has a word count of up to 550 words or more describing the job. They typically pay $22/hr for it. The job reads like you are doing everything from the Janitor to the VP and everything in between!

11 posted on 11/19/2018 11:28:41 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: SunkenCiv

notice how these million dollar marxist still siphon all of the gold for themselves and pay below the going rate driving down wages and lobby congress for more cheap labor lying that the talent does not exist in America?


12 posted on 11/20/2018 2:06:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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To: prophetic

Depends on the task. It’s happening with a lot of other types of work, with lower averages at that. The “gig economy” is particularly tough. Uber and Lyft (taxi driving) require you to be in a specific location and bring your own car—and they in some cases are averaging now below the minimum wage.


13 posted on 11/20/2018 2:10:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

all contract workers, just like other companies/franchises tried to do to avoid paying certain taxes and benefits while paying low wages=more profit for the owner of company. Massage envy is one example that learned it couldn’t have so many contract workers and had to make them employees with healthcare benefits etc.


14 posted on 11/20/2018 3:10:29 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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In my experience, contract workers are more expensive than regular employees. The benefit of contract workers is that they can be fired at any time.


15 posted on 11/20/2018 3:20:09 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: prophetic

I get calls from staffing companies pushing engineering jobs at that level of pay, no benefits - for 35 years experience, PE license, several industry white papers. The calls are likely from boiler rooms in India.
$22/hr in Houston in the energy industry might get you a junior designer, but no way even a new graduate in process control or electrical engineering.


16 posted on 11/20/2018 3:57:07 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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I get calls from staffing companies pushing engineering jobs at that level of pay,...

Yeah, same here. Once I tell them what I am currently making, they stop calling.

17 posted on 11/20/2018 4:16:52 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indeed.com FAKE JOB BOARD

Most software jobs on Indeed are FAKE.

It is just a paperwork only front for H-1B foreign hires.

It violates the 13th Amendment for human trafficking.


18 posted on 11/20/2018 4:40:29 AM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: TheNext

I worked for one of the big California based software companies for almost 20 years. They had to post development jobs to boards like Indeed and other. It was all smoke and mirrors to cover some regulation. The jobs always went to hire programmers in India.


19 posted on 11/20/2018 4:50:14 AM PST by crusadersoldier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He didn’t say, “the OUTSIDE world is going to a Cloud Wage”.

He said THE WORLD is going to a Cloud Wage.


20 posted on 11/20/2018 6:08:29 AM PST by gaijin
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