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The Truth About Slavery - Part 1
Janitor's view ^ | 02/24/19 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 02/25/2019 9:17:42 PM PST by kathsua

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To: fso301

Agreed.

Biblical consistency is hard for some


21 posted on 02/26/2019 4:00:36 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: kathsua

There are many falsehoods about slavery taught in our public schools. I am a descendant of slave-owners who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Unlike all the BS being taught in public school, the slaves were treated well, were the first to eat at every meal, and were the first to receive medical care. A schoolteacher came in twice a week to teach them to read and write. And, when emancipation happened, they were each offered 40 acres and the chance to stay on the farm and work for pay. Nearly all of them stayed.


22 posted on 02/26/2019 5:28:50 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve
A schoolteacher came in twice a week to teach them to read and write.

This was illegal in many of the Southern States. Specifically, North and South Carolina, Virginia, and Georgia all had laws prohibiting the education of blacks. The caveat was religious education.

23 posted on 02/26/2019 5:58:56 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon
This was illegal in many of the Southern States. Specifically, North and South Carolina, Virginia, and Georgia all had laws prohibiting the education of blacks. The caveat was religious education.

I have heard that. Nonetheless, they paid her, and they put it right in the ledger. I can only surmise that my ancestors had a different attitude towards slaves than the earlier slave holders. They inherited the plantation, and the slaves with it. They couldn't just turn them loose, even if they wanted to. That was highly illegal. I know my grandmother spoke of an old slave woman named Artielia who lived on the plantation. And, Artielia could read an write, because she taught my grandmother.

24 posted on 02/26/2019 6:10:18 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve

What State? As I had indicated, each law had the caveat of religious education, meaning that blacks could be taught to read and write in the context of biblical education. This is how many blacks were taught, to include Frederick Douglass, who also taught other blacks to read the New Testament.


25 posted on 02/26/2019 6:23:06 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: RouxStir

Great point. It’s also remarkable that socialists/Communists have been able to perpetuate the myth that they are somehow on the opposite end from Fascists on a linear political spectrum. They are both controlling, authoritarian, dictatorial systems that concentrate power in the politically connected ‘elites’. No matter what political ‘scientists’ and other academics try to sell us about how under socialism/Communism power is concentrated ‘in the people’, it never is.


26 posted on 02/26/2019 6:26:15 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Nifster

You can say anything you wish

Be anything you pretend to be here

But I’ve watched you post forever

Race baiting and demonizing my southern ancestry as Nazis or even Commies etc is your schtick here

I’m going to let you in on a secret

All that sound and fury may give you and Ben Shapiro and D’Souza a sense of self righteousness

But it won’t bring one black voter to conservatism


27 posted on 02/26/2019 8:42:50 AM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: kathsua

IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE SLAVES

28 posted on 02/26/2019 10:26:41 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The twilight hour of socialism has arrived in our hemisphere." --Trump to Venezuelans, 2/18/19)
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To: wardaddy

You are so far over the top it isn’t even funny. I have done nothing you describe

Breathe. Your blood pressure is obviously through the roof


29 posted on 02/26/2019 12:16:07 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: neverevergiveup
Read about serfdom, and how widespread it was. It was another form of slavery, and plenty of white people toiled under it. The reality is that human beings can be very cruel to one another, and those things that were done wrong in the US were not unprecedented. That doesn’t excuse them, but they weren’t in any way the exclusive sins of the US.
In the second half of Black Rednecks and White Liberals. Thomas Sowell discusses the fact that no other time and no other culture rejected the institution of slavery than the Christian, especially Protestant and especially English-speaking ones in the 18th and 19th Centuries.

Christianity turned against the institution of slavery despite the existence in the Bible of the Epistle to Philemon which condones it.

The reason for the (near) abolition of slavery in the world was the Nineteenth Century influence of the British Empire, which covered 2/3 of the world’s land. Without any monetary incentive, the British created a squadron of the Royal Navy which was dedicated to the abolition of sea-borne trade in slaves from Africa. Sowell reports that although that squadron would enter ports in Africa, their seamen were not given shore leave there because they would see the human trafficking going on there, and they would inevitably riot.

Sowell also acknowledges - even emphasizes - that the only pro-slavery literature in history was produced in the American South. He makes the point that the institution never needed any defense at any other place in any previous time. I would add that the American South was, among Christians, uniquely situated to be “the last to get the word” on the immorality of slavery.

Due to commercial electricity and electrical appliances, air conditioning and central heating, plentiful and high-quality food, commercial transportation and automobile/fuel production, plastics, health care technology, etc., an American secretary today would have to think hard before swapping circumstances with Queen Victoria. If you reflect on that fact, and consider how owning “servants” would ameliorate conditions which we ourselves would find intolerable in the absence of the above amenities, you can see where slaveowners might consider the abolition of slavery to be an imposition similar to our being ordered to abide by the “Green New Deal.” Or worse.

William Wilberforce

Slavery and the Civil War.


30 posted on 02/26/2019 12:37:23 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: rjsimmon
What State? As I had indicated, each law had the caveat of religious education, meaning that blacks could be taught to read and write in the context of biblical education. This is how many blacks were taught, to include Frederick Douglass, who also taught other blacks to read the New Testament.

Texas.

31 posted on 02/26/2019 1:06:19 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: Singermom

“”For example did you know that before the civil war only dems owned slaves?””

The difference between you and Dinesh is that he knows that a lot of what he says is crap. He deals in polemics, and calls it “history”.

This a list of antebellum Presidents who had owned slaves at some point, and their party as President:

1.George Washington, no party
3.Jefferson, Democratic-Republican Party
4.Madison, Democratic-Republican Party
5.Monroe, Democratic-Republican Party
7.Andrew Jackson, Democrat
8.Martin Van Buren, Democrat
9.Wm Henry Harrison, Whig
10.John Tyler, Whig
11.James Polk, Democrat
12.Zachary Taylor, Whig
17.Andrew Johnson, National Union/Democrat
18.Ulysses Grant, Republican


32 posted on 02/26/2019 2:36:35 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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