[erkelly]

I think this is all nonsense, every bit of it. I don’t think the Russians had anything to do with our elections. They ran a few ads, some pro-Trump, some pro-Hillary, most of their ads were in Russian. According to Julian Assange, the e-mails were downloaded from the DNC server by an employee of the DNC. I am so sick of this nonsense. Putin is not a particularly nice man, but he is not guilty of meddling in our election.

[ETL]

I think this is all nonsense, every bit of it. I don’t think the Russians had anything to do with our elections.

Then you don't know jack sht about how the Russians operate. This guy pretty much nailed it.

There is no way in hell that the Russians would have wanted a strong on defense team like Trump-Pence over a pathetically weak Democrat one. It was Obama-Hillary-Biden who substantially helped to strengthen the Russian military position, while, at the same time, significantly weakening ours.

Obama-Hillary-Biden gave them everything they wanted and more on missile defense, Nukes, including the New Start nuke treaty and Iran nuke deal, plus, of course the Uranium-1 deal, where Hillary Clinton allowed Russia to take control of 20% or more of our nation's uranium production.

The Russians have a long history of grand deception and disinformation, AND of getting involved in other country's elections. Just ask the Ukrainians.

Viktor Yanukovych (Party of Regions), Putin's stooge in the Ukraine -ETL]

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Viktor Yanukovych vs Viktor Yushchenko

In 2004, as President Kuchma's term came to an end, [Viktor] Yushchenko announced his candidacy for president as an independent.

His major rival was Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych. ..."

The campaign was often bitter and violent.

Yushchenko became seriously ill in early September 2004.

He was flown to Vienna’s Rudolfinerhaus clinic for treatment and diagnosed with acute pancreatitis, accompanied by interstitial edematous changes, due to a serious viral infection and chemical substances that are not normally found in food products.

Yushchenko claimed that he had been poisoned by government agents.

After the illness, his face was greatly disfigured: jaundiced, bloated, and pockmarked.

British toxicologist Professor John Henry of St Mary’s Hospital in London declared the changes in Yushchenko’s face were due to chloracne, which results from dioxin poisoning.[17]

Dutch toxicologist Bram Brouwer also stated his changes in appearance were the result of chloracne, and found dioxin levels in Yushchenko’s blood 6,000 times above normal.[18]

On December 11, Dr. Michael Zimpfer of the Rudolfinerhaus clinic declared that Yushchenko had ingested TCDD dioxin and had 1,000 times the usual concentration in his body.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko#TCDD_poisoning

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Yushchenko, hero of Ukraine's Orange Revolution warns Europe that Putin won't stop at Crimea

by Matthew Schofield - McClatchy Foreign Staff
March 27, 2014

Viktor Yushchenko

Many Ukrainians believe you need look no further than the face of Viktor Yushchenko to understand Russia's aggression against Ukraine.

Once smooth and ruggedly handsome, it still bears the scars from an assassination attempt when someone slipped dioxin into Yushchenko's food. ..."

Read more here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24765781.html#storylink=cpy