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Why Labour Lost
wordpress.com ^ | 12/16/19 | Paul eMBERY

Posted on 12/17/2019 5:07:41 AM PST by a little elbow grease

So there we have it. It turns out that the British working-class was not, in the end, willing to throw its weight behind a London-centric, youth-obsessed, middle-class party that preached the gospels of liberal cosmopolitanism and class war. Who’d have thought it?

Well, me for a start. And plenty of others who had been loyal to the party over many years and desperately wanted to see a Labour government, only to be dismissed as ‘reactionaries’ who held a ‘nostalgic’ view of the working-class.

It barely needs saying that these election results are an utter catastrophe for Labour.

Labour’s meltdown in these places will come as no surprise to anyone who was paying attention and wasn’t blinded by ideology or fanaticism.

There is supposed to be a period of introspection, while Labour considers why it lost. This is unlikely to happen. Already the battle lines are drawn: Corbyn and his supporters blame Brexit supporters. His opponents blame Corbyn’s far-left policies and practices. Below is an article which points in another direction. It suggests that Labour (and not just London Labour – but Labour of the cities rather than the towns and villages of Britain) have lost touch with its grassroots. I do not agree with all the points it makes, but this is clear:

“Labour must stop treating the traditional working-class as though they were some kind of embarrassing elderly relative.”

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Is this a harbinger of things to come here in the USA?

Similar indications?

Gotta ask Joy Reid about Trump winning Vermont next year.

;-)

1 posted on 12/17/2019 5:07:41 AM PST by a little elbow grease
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Tucker Carlson read this guy's article on his show last night.

Paul Embery made some excellent and timely points.

2 posted on 12/17/2019 5:10:00 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: a little elbow grease

Labor lost, because nobody likes commies.


3 posted on 12/17/2019 5:12:40 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: a little elbow grease

We all want it to be.....we all want to believe that the American spirit survives under all the disgusting, wacko policies and behavior of the very visible Leftists. I’m thinking that Labour didn’t cheat as much/provide enough voter fraud, for Labour to win. The voter fraud in this country seems to be light-years ahead of Britain. Pelousi doesn’t seem worried that she might be leading her Party off the cliff. She seems to believe they will take everything in 2020, no matter what they do or how they behave.


4 posted on 12/17/2019 5:13:22 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: a little elbow grease

I do think we are seeing a fundamental political change.

The Progressives have held power by default through government bureaucrats and media dominance. Most people don’t like Progressive values. They think that things have gotten weird. Just to pick on one thing — transgenders are HUGELY significant to the Progressives. But why? Normal people don’t care about that stuff at all.

Donald Trump showed people that you could push back against the media and the bureaucrats. It’s a Great Awakening. And now the UK is awake as well.


5 posted on 12/17/2019 5:14:31 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: BuffaloJack

When you have candidates spewing tax increases, free sh## for those who don’t earn, free shi# for those who are invaders, free sh# for those snowflakes and lazy a## freeloaders, you have a losing candidate


6 posted on 12/17/2019 5:15:38 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: a little elbow grease

The average Joe sees it this way: When eveyone the elites are lifting up as in need of their recognition is not ever you, you start to get it.


7 posted on 12/17/2019 5:19:52 AM PST by Wuli
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To: BuffaloJack
"Labor lost, because nobody likes commies."

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Yes, if they recognize them.

Communists are "hiding" themselves pretty conspicuously here in America, yet some people don't see them.

They call themselves socialists.

8 posted on 12/17/2019 5:21:06 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: a little elbow grease

This reminds me of how Trump won in 2016.


9 posted on 12/17/2019 5:24:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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To: a little elbow grease
“Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism are only superficial variations of the same monstrous theme—collectivism.”

- March 19, 1944, Ayn Rand


10 posted on 12/17/2019 5:25:59 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: a little elbow grease

That’s what you get for paying heed to those commie bots on twitter.


11 posted on 12/17/2019 5:26:18 AM PST by fruser1
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To: a little elbow grease

My guess is that Labour will follow the lead of the Dems in the USA. That is they will alienate their traditional base in the belief that they are irrelevant and shrinking. This will cost them some votes in the short-mid term, but may be a winning long term strategy. To negate this, the Tories must shut the door on immigration while they are in power. Unfortunately, they might follow the lead of the Reps in the USA and do absolutely nothing about it.


12 posted on 12/17/2019 5:27:44 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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I am pro labor, pro American worker, a nationalist and protectionist.

Even though I proudly state the above I am not pro union.

13 posted on 12/17/2019 5:28:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: originalbuckeye
I’m thinking that Labour didn’t cheat as much/provide enough voter fraud, for Labour to win. The voter fraud in this country seems to be light-years ahead of Britain. ----

Yes .... our Dems. have been at it forever (Check out the great book 'Votescam' if you feel like it.)

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Pelousi doesn’t seem worried that she might be leading her Party off the cliff. She seems to believe they will take everything in 2020, no matter what they do or how they behave. ---

I hope she is worried. Maybe she's just liquored up more than in the past years.

14 posted on 12/17/2019 5:28:40 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: BuffaloJack
Labor lost, because nobody likes commies.

People that work for a pay check and are not in a union commies too? Because that is labor.

15 posted on 12/17/2019 5:29:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: originalbuckeye
I’m thinking that Labour didn’t cheat as much/provide enough voter fraud, for Labour to win.

I'm not sure this is possible in the UK. It looks like they all vote on the same day by paper ballot. The votes are tallied and the results known in almost all cases before the sun rises the next day.

The only reason we vote the way we do in NJ, at least, is to permit fraud to occur.

ML/NJ

16 posted on 12/17/2019 5:29:46 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ClearCase_guy
Donald Trump showed people that you could push back against the media and the bureaucrats. It’s a Great Awakening. And now the UK is awake as well.

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Bravo

17 posted on 12/17/2019 5:29:58 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: a little elbow grease
They truly thought that ‘one more heave’ would bring victory. They believed that constantly hammering on about economic inequality would be enough to get Labour over the line. In doing so, they made a major miscalculation: they failed to grasp that working-class voters desire something more than just economic security; they want cultural security too.

They want politicians to respect their way of life, and their sense of place and belonging; to elevate real-world concepts such as work, family and community over nebulous constructs like ‘diversity’, ‘equality’ and ‘inclusivity’. By immersing itself in the destructive creed of identity politics and championing policies such as open borders, Labour placed itself on a completely different wavelength to millions across provincial Britain without whose support it simply could not win power. In the end, Labour was losing a cultural war that it didn’t even realise it was fighting.

Sound familiar? I bet the other thing not lost on the voters is that those screaming loudest about economic inequality have cushy urban jobs writing policy papers and such while intending to do nothing to improve the life of those who actually do productive work [aren't those kinds of jobs obsolete in advanced states?]

18 posted on 12/17/2019 5:32:43 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: ClearCase_guy
Just to pick on one thing — transgenders are HUGELY significant to the Progressives.

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Yes, look what those "men turned (NOT)women" have been allowed to do in girl/female sports competitions in high schools and colleges! It's sickening! And it's a huge turnoff to ANY REASONABLE PERSON.

19 posted on 12/17/2019 5:33:14 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Progressives have held power by default through government bureaucrats and media dominance. Most people don’t like Progressive values. They think that things have gotten weird. Just to pick on one thing — transgenders are HUGELY significant to the Progressives. But why? Normal people don’t care about that stuff at all.


To me, Transgenderism reminds me of Orwell’s “1984” where the Government is so powerful and its propaganda so effective, it can convince people that 2+2 = 5. If you can convince people that a man is a woman, you have effectively achieved the same thing. Even worse, you have smashed social/cultural norms to the point that people: 1) don’t know what to really believe and 2) are afraid to say that the Emperor has no clothes. In other words, they just beome compliant Sheeple. Mission Accomplished.


20 posted on 12/17/2019 5:33:21 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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