Posted on 02/10/2020 9:03:06 AM PST by EyesOfTX
Never heard of her, but considering her opponents, Biden Buttigieg, Sanders and Warren, Krusty the Clown could emerge as the front runner with a better chance.
I wouldn’t put anything past the Democrats.
Look what emerged from Iowa... a toss up between a queer and a communist.
I guess Joe Biden is their idea of “normal”, and he came in fourth, despite being Obama’s VP for 8 years. (Over the last 60 plus years, ex VPs have ALWAYS won their party’s presidential nomination if they seek it, unless an incumbent president is running for re-election.) If Biden fails to win the nomination, he will be the first past VP in modern history to do so.
As for the women running, the only one that seems close to normal to me is Tulsi Gabbard, and she won < 1%.
Nothing that comes out of NH Democrat primary will surprise me - they are all crackpots
Well, right now Amy is the only “moderate” alternative to Biden in the race right now who is not gay so she has a chance, that is before Bloomberg enters with his billions to try to buy the nomination. I bet whoever wins names a black as a VP running mate to pander to their most important voting constituency
This, despite the fact that in modern (post-12th Amendment) history, only Martin van Buren (Andrew Jackson’s Veep) and GHWB (Ronald Reagan’s veep) have won election to the presidency as sitting VPs.The thing is that VP is political heir of the POTUS - kind of a prince, except the POTUS has only a 4-year term - and it isn’t an executive position. And neither, of course, is Senator. And the other thing is that whenever anyone first attains statewide office (senator or governor), the clock starts running, and nobody has been elected POTUS without attaining national office within 20 years of attaining statewide office.
The upshot is that VP Biden actually is not presidential material. Whereas sitting our sitting VP is a former governor (who attained national office only 4 years after his governorship started). Mike Pence will have all the right boxes checked in 2024. Assuming that the Trump presidency continues to be successful.
I don’t know why MN always seem to vote for name recognition but its always been that way.
Rudy Boschwitz - Plywood Minnesota.
Michelle Bachmann - no relation to Bachmann Florist but still...
Al Franken - Somehow they didn’t show him in the diaper.
Mark Dayton - Dayton’s department store
“...only Martin van Buren (Andrew Jackson’s Veep) and GHWB (Ronald Reagan’s veep) have won election to the presidency as sitting VPs.”
Interesting. So a VP’s ability to secure the nomination is no indication of his ability to win the Presidency.
A few more related dynamics:
VPs who have been nominated but failed to win the Presidency, have rarely chosen to run again four years later, and the exceptions, Humphrey in 1972 and Ford* in 1980, failed to win the nomination on their second attempt. (Ford gets an asterisk because he ran both as a past VP and as a past unelected President).
However, Richard Nixon, who was nominated but lost in ‘60, and who chose not to run in ‘64, was nominated a second time in ‘68, and went on to win the Presidency twice by landslide.
That puts my point succinctly. It is only when the sitting POTUS is a large figure that being his political heir matters in the general election.Richard Nixon, who was nominated but lost in ‘60, and who chose not to run in ‘64, was nominated a second time in ‘68, and went on to win the Presidency twice, once by landslide.The key point is that governors get more respect than senators and/or veeps in the general election. From this distance, Pence looks good for ’24.
1968 was a tight election.
Because she has no chance, she inspires about as much gravitas an confidence as an inch worm.
“1968 was a tight election.”
Right - my bad.
Eisenhower’s VP vs Johnson’s VP makes for a tight race.
How often has a governor been beaten by a senator in the general? Romney. Anyone else?
Romney was running against a sitting POTUS. McCain - a senator - lost to Obama, then also a senator.The only senator ever to defeat a governor for POTUS was Warren G. Harding in 1920. The governor he beat was, ironically, from the same state that Harding was from - Ohio.
1920 was a terrible year for Democrats; the public was fed up with Woodrow Wilson and WWI.
No senator has ever unseated a sitting POTUS running for reelection.
“””””’Al Franken - Somehow they didn’t show him in the diaper.””””””””””
Yup. Al was born in New York. He moved here when he was about five. He left Minneapolis in 1969 right after high school.
He returned as a “Minnesotan” to run for Senate.
The media made sure nobody would care about such a trivial detail.
Amy is useless just like her fellow idiot Tina Smith.
Of course - it was McCain who lost to Obama the senator. I’m getting my GOP losers reversed...
I don’t think Klobuchar has much of a chance, but can you imagine how a certain former Demo candidate/first lady/senator/secretary of state would react to NOT being the first female president?
Which end of the pack are we talking about? Emerging as #1 or emerging as #7?
Well we came close in the 1990s. Remember Jimmuh Carter's top advisor on nucular (spelled like he pronounced it) weapons? None other than Amy Carter! Maybe not POTUS, but a "trusted" advisor on a major issue, no?
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