Which agency did this and under WHAT AUTHORITY? We can’t just march our troops or law enforcement into a sovereign country, an ALLY even, without their consent!

And if you go to the Scytl website, they categorically state that they don’t have servers in Germany or any foreign country.
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Scytl or scuttle - you believe them? I have several brand new bridges looking for discerning owners, perhaps you’d would be one of them?

Who says its **our government**? Yes, our agents can just march in, if they were, as rumored, on CIA property in the first place ... then there is getting permission of the German government - which is done all the time, but you apparently have an inside with the German government (which has said nothing publicly) and they have told you there was no consent.

Some times agencies don’t bother with the niceties they just act if the thing is truly important. Outrage be damned, objective achieved.

You are just full of assumptions and conclusions based on them.

RE: Someone is being played here and I’m not sure who it is but I suspect it’s Powell.

IF it is indeed true that election data is being sent to servers in Germany, then this INDEED IS *THE KRAKEN* that Powell is referring to.

But, but, but I don’t see any proof that such servers exist. That’s why people will be annoyed at my continously harping about it.

Saying that it is possible for data to be remotely changed is different from SHOWING that it really happened.

the guy in video is the “kajun kracken” brian thrascher ..sidney released the kracken...

RE: but you apparently have an inside with the German government (which has said nothing publicly) and they have told you there was no consent.

OK, this implies that YOU have inside information that the German government gave their consent.

The reality is we both do not know.

Heck, I don’t even know if this so-called server is related to this current election. Could it not be possible that we are confusing the usage of servers?

Why do you assume we don’t have these other government’s authorization?

If it was on private property, likely the locals did the deed with some US assets backing them up.

If it was CIA (as some have suggested) assets with the servers then all bets are off.

And if push comes to shove, NATO treaties provide all the leverage we need and not one of our allies would object, or at least not for more than show. US national security is paramount.

Good movie with Burt Lancaster and I agree with you.

” Ok government has them. Good so far.”

Don’t think so. Half the “government” you can’t trust. 5 years of criminality and Barr hasn’t put anyone in jail, much less issue an indictment. I’m afraid the “bad guys” got the goods.

I think they just remodeled Guantanamo Bay.

Trump posted this on twitter “Nov. 12th”.. Trump must have the serves and data from it, how did he know in detail the numbers took from him? The CIA visited ole mitch the other day (gina), most likely the CIA seized the servers.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.”

My Question

RE: Why do you assume we don’t have these other government’s authorization?

OK, all these discussions and back and forth are speculation. We need concrete evidence, or even an OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT from the agency ( or agencies ) that conducted the raid ( even from our European/German allies ).

And before we continue, please understand — I BADLY WANT THIS TO BE TRUE! However, please understand that conservatives have been burned many times by false too-good-to-be-true fake news as well.

From Trump’s tweet:

“DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.”

I’d really like to know WHO did the Data Analysis and who actually presented these numbers.

Yeah, me too.

I just read This Statement From the ScyTl Website

Scytl strongly denies the fake news related to the U.S. elections

November 13, 2020 | General

In view of the information published by some sources about Scytl’s involvement in alleged electoral fraud in the United States, the company would like to clarify that:

1) Scytl has NO presence in Frankfurt, Germany

The U.S. military has not seized anything related to Scytl in Frankfurt, Barcelona or anywhere else. The company does not even have offices in Frankfurt and does not have servers or computers in the German city.
Servers in Frankfurt were used for a specific project for the European Parliament in 2019. These back-up servers were closed in September 2019.
The technologies implemented by Scytl in the United States are hosted and managed within the United States by our local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
The company currently has offices in: Spain, France, Greece, the US, Canada, and Australia.
Associated Press published on November 14 an article debunking the fake news.

2) Scytl did NOT provide any electronic voting machines to US jurisdictions and does NOT tabulate, tally or count votes in US public elections. These are the products Scytl provided to city, county, and state clients across the United States:

Election Night Reporting (ENR): ENR is a platform that provides visual representation of votes that have been tabulated by state and local elections officials.

Online Election Worker Training: Scytl works with election offices to take their already-created training content and put it into an online learning management system. All of the content for this training is provided and fully approved by each individual client.

Online Voter Education: A website for election officials to provide important election information to voters before, during, and after an election. All content on these websites is provided and approved by each individual client.

Electronic Ballot Delivery (eBD): A platform that allows state election offices to securely deliver ballots to UOCAVA voters. Each state has different laws and regulations regarding who can request a ballot through this system, and how that ballot can be returned. eBD does NOT allow voters to vote online and does NOT tabulate, tally, or count votes.

3) Scytl has NO political affiliation

Scytl has no political affiliations of any kind. Scytl has corporate policies prohibiting direct or indirect financial contributions by the company or its employees to candidates, political parties or PACs (political action committees).
George Soros has no stake in the company and has never been connected to it.
Scytl has no relationship with Smartmatic, SGO, Dominion or Indra.
Scytl is not connected in any way with the Russian Government.

4) US Elections are safe and secure Scytl has not reported any incidents during the election. In addition, the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security have revealed that:

Okay, I want it to be true, too, but don’t be so cynical or caught up in assumptions that you dismiss confirmation as hearsay, especially when your cynicism is based on an unproven assumption.

Multiple reliable sources have stated that there were servers seized. The government has not, and likely will not, until it is appropriate to do so AND depending on who has them. The rest of the details, did we have permission, whose assets did the deed, etc., are not important. What is important is that the people serving the President stated unequivocally that the servers exist and were seized. This is not creative interpretation of the answer by some optimistic FReeper, it is a direct answer to the question. Now worry about who has them and what’s on them and is it really useful and why they were seized and if it is the bad guys, do we have intel on it, and if not the bad guys then what the consequences of the grab are. There’re plenty of potentially bad outcomes there, if you really want to be cynical.

RE: Multiple reliable sources have stated that there were servers seized. The government has not, and likely will not, until it is appropriate to do so AND depending on who has them.

OK, let’s follow the logic here:

Question: Were the servers in Germany seized or was this incident a fanciful story?

Sidney Powell said some servers in Germany were seized. My inclination is to believe her. So, let’s move on and say that the seizure incident is TRUE...

Next question: WHO SEIZED THE SERVER, and FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

Let’s look at the WHO question first.

In regards to WHO, It has to be a government entity IN COOPERATION and WITH THE CONSENT of the German Government.

But WHICH GOVERNMENT ENTITY? CIA? FBI? The US Military? A joint Euro-American operation?

Who knows?

Second — FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

Let’s not assume that the servers were seized IN ORDER to investigate evidence of voter fraud in the current 2020 election. Could it not be possible that these servers were UNRELATED to the election at all?

Finally Sidney Powell said this in the Press Conference:

“That is true. It is somehow related to this. But I do not know if good guys got it or bad guys got it.”

So, she said it is somehow related to this election. However, I find it curious that she does not know WHO got the server. How do we know that the purpose is to investigate voter fraud ( the good guys ) and NOT to erase incriminating data? ( the bad guys ).

If it is the later, unless we can prove it, evidence is being deleted and we’re screwed.

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/11/unraveling-the-deep-state-coup.html

Easy, from where does Clarity get the data they feed to the networks?

I want to know who and from where the command came to several states simultaneously to stop counting? Why did the Heorgia election officials lie about the water pipe bursting so they stopped counting?

Either a legitimate government entity or a rogue one. Could even have been a third party not part of the US or German umbrella. Even China, if they want to protect their asset (Biden).

If it was by the good guys - a somewhat vague definition would be appropriate - then we’re good and even if Powell knows, she doesn’t know officially for good reason. If it was the bad guys - also vaguely defined - then we ARE screwed if there is no secondary source. Nothing ever dies on the internet and all the data that was shipped to Germany (or Spain, or Zimbabwe, or Timbuktu) is out there and is going to be much harder to recover, but it IS out there. Fog of war, and all. I wouldn’t be any more specific than Powell was no matter who has the servers/data. The other side has to prepare for the possibility that Trump’s team has it. Has to. Advantage Trump either way. So I’m good with what we know so far.

I do hope it is what it has been krackened up to be ;) but I’m stepping up to the “there were servers” line and holding that position. We can wargame it from there.

What she indicated was clear - WHATEVER happened, it is not important to the lawsuits they are filing.

So focus on what counts, not what makes you feel like James Bond from behind your keyboard.

evidence is being deleted and we’re screwed.

BS. She made it clear this has nothing to do with the cases they are filing.