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IQ Determinism (long, but worth your time and attention)
The Orthosphere ^ | JANUARY 17, 2022 | RICHARD COCKS

Posted on 01/17/2022 8:32:12 PM PST by Noumenon

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There are savage, brutal truths on offer in this article. One of the relevant quotes:

The suppression of the facts about IQ intentionally obscures the causes of differing educational and occupational outcomes. It makes charges of “systemic racism” seem more plausible. This meaningless phrase is based on the lack of equality of results. Blacks do less well than other groups in society, and commit violent crimes, and others, at alarmingly high rates. One in three blacks who dropped out of high school, an indication of low IQ, end up in prison. Low IQ is correlated with antisocial tendencies of narcissism, low conscientiousness and low agreeableness, low impulse control, and an R life strategy: live fast, die young, and do not worry about the future. The average black IQ is 85.

For my part, I tested out early at 135. Didn't make me rich, didn't keep me from making on occasion some breathtakingly bad life choices. But I was always able to recover, reinvent myself, learn what I needed to learn and press on. And more importantly, to not repeat the same mistakes. We all differ widely in terms of drive, determination, curiosity and ambition; our intelligence is the engine we harness to do as our outlook and ambition dictates. Life is a meritocracy, the best efforts of DIE types notwithstanding.

1 posted on 01/17/2022 8:32:12 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: Noumenon

I just tried to send this to someone on Facebook and Facebook blocked it.


2 posted on 01/17/2022 8:37:06 PM PST by euram
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Because of course they did. This article is pure dynamite to the prevailing orthodoxy.


3 posted on 01/17/2022 8:38:43 PM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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Oh, no...

Here we go.

Who believes in real science?


4 posted on 01/17/2022 8:47:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Noumenon
The authors of The Bell Curve are Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein.
5 posted on 01/17/2022 8:47:49 PM PST by Tom in SFCA
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You might want to drop the author a note, then.


6 posted on 01/17/2022 8:55:14 PM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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So many public schools make it their business to discourage higher learning or friendly competition.

So many students find it easier to languish in the position of a powerless victim who must be ‘protected’ from direct academic challenge. A powerless victim who is not responsible for anything they may say or do, no matter how cruel or selfish or racist that action is.

Too often these days, emotion rules over logic. Adult sized students are permitted to triumph via tantrumming and property destruction.


7 posted on 01/17/2022 8:59:48 PM PST by lee martell
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not surprised about IQ being 80% determined by genetics ... i’ve repeatedly noted that very intelligent parents tend to sire intelligent offspring ...

i’ve also noted that very intelligent folks excel whether they be a self-employed electrician or a self-employed arborist ...


8 posted on 01/17/2022 9:00:16 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Noumenon

Bookmark.


9 posted on 01/17/2022 9:02:19 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Noumenon

“Because of course they did. This article is pure dynamite to the prevailing orthodoxy.”
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It’s more than dynamite, it’s kryptonite.


10 posted on 01/17/2022 9:16:56 PM PST by House Atreides
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I think most of the accusations of "systemic racism" come down to this. Unfortunately, as society becomes more advanced, high IQ is an ever-increasing value.

May be factual, may be cruel.

11 posted on 01/17/2022 9:18:41 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Noumenon

bfl


12 posted on 01/17/2022 9:32:58 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Me too, I want to read this when I can.


13 posted on 01/17/2022 9:34:28 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: catnipman
I'm obvius dum..Can spel..don no nuttin...

I maewe it 2 hear...mus be somtin hear....

14 posted on 01/17/2022 9:36:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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Seen it time after time over a 50 year working career. High IQ succeeds despite lack of formal education, low IQ fails no matter where they went to school, for how long, what degrees they acquired, or who boosted their careers. AOC is a prime example of the latter.


15 posted on 01/17/2022 9:38:13 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (qd4)
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Bump For Later!


16 posted on 01/17/2022 9:39:16 PM PST by RetAF_fedUP (ShitShowJoe, "abandons Americans in the field/down range"...Biden's are complete failures! )
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A worth while read.


17 posted on 01/17/2022 9:51:52 PM PST by bytesmith
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To: Noumenon

I think that Mr. Cocks oversimplifies matters. Intelligence is important, but so are other things like temperament, physical and mental health, culture, and even looks. I have an IQ sufficient to win a Nobel Prize, but I am deficient in some other areas, so I never even completed a postgraduate degree. Success in life depends on a lot more than IQ.


18 posted on 01/17/2022 10:05:04 PM PST by devere
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Google average IQ for each nation. Many African nations have IQ averages in the 60s.


19 posted on 01/17/2022 10:20:12 PM PST by Medowynd
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This is a fascinating site.

The mention of the obscure, small, Upstate NY canal town named Oswego, piqued my interest. It is now an economically, depressed drug ridden, welfare community with the college on the edge of it, so provides a classic example of what the author contends.

FWIW, many years ago I recall hearing on Focus on the Family, that there actually was a window in a child’s life between the ages of 8-18 months where it was possible to actually increase your child’s IQ. Perhaps it really was more that it was the window at which you could maximize the child’s natural potential. Regardless, some of the things you could do was to interact with the kids eye to eye and one on one, talk to them with adult conversation (not baby talk), and to read to them. A lot.

Apparently, talking with them in adult terms actually exercises the brain in a way. Granted they do not understand everything that’s said, but apparently that is the point - challenging them in that way is very good for them intellectually.


20 posted on 01/17/2022 10:21:22 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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