IQ Determinism (long, but worth your time and attention)

The Orthosphere ^ | JANUARY 17, 2022 | RICHARD COCKS

[alexander_busek]

I believe that the increase in black IQ is due to the increase in mixed couples.

A reasonable hypothesis!

Thanks for a good thread.

Yes, the main article was stellar, but the comments were also distinctly above average (by at least one Standard Deviation)!

Regards,

[Oystir]

It never helps to make a crucial error in the first paragraph!

[Billie Bud]

There exists the likelihood that both environment and genetics are at play for some parts of what is considered IQ. For example, perhaps those with whatever is measurable IQ that is higher are more inclined to read more, expose their children to better environments that encourages thought growth and appeals to their natural interests thereby creating an opportunity for optimal mental performance.

[glennaro]

Excellent points. Most every perspective of life boils down to three things: Genes, a healthy environmental (to your points), and an undeniable element of “good luck”.

[AppyPappy]

IQ is meaningless. Some people don’t test well. Some people are so smart they are stupid.

[Tom in SFCA]

It never helps to make a crucial error in the first paragraph!

I left a comment for which Mr. Cocks thanked me. The article is now corrected at the source.

[Mr. Blond]

You were a literate child because you already had a higher IQ. The limits of IQ are baked in at birth, you can’t increase it, only maximize it by about 5 points.

[Mr. Blond]

The mean IQ of the continental sub-Saharan is 70. The African-American average is 85, due to white admixture.

[Albion Wilde]

The good news is that there is not much parents with very high SES can do with a dumb child. IQ is much much more important than how smart or rich your parents are.

I completely disagree with this assertion. You may not be able to make such a child a PhD candidate; but effective environment, diet and nurturing can potentiate every individual. Great work has been done with Downs kids, disabled children, and with rehabilitating adults who are post-injury or illness. Why should a slow start in life be regarded as not worth the effort? The brain is not "fixed" and static; it can continue to develop long into the life span.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Read Coming Apart by Murray and you’ll have your answer. You may not like it.

[Albion Wilde]

Cries of systemic racism exist as a way for scared, highly neurotic, narcissistic, Machiavellian white people who want power to control a world they find to be scary, who are not confident in their ability to gain status through legitimate attainment, to use an out group to advance their own status among other whites. Black people end up being hapless pawns of sick white people to advance certain white people’s careers. Those white people do not actually care about the out group since they are not interested in looking at evidence for what actually helps and harms black people.

[Castlebar]

May be factual, may be cruel.

No exceptions to the rule.................

[Albion Wilde]

There is also a theory under research in high-IQ areas like Silicon Valley that many autistic children are the result of two high-IQ parents, particularly if the father or grandfather was in engineering. An article about it appeared in Wired magazine maybe 20 years ago. While some autistic kids may be language-impaired or otherwise quite visibly handicapped, others are “savants”, whose very high IQ must contend with social awkwardness and behavioral tics in the personallity.

[Albion Wilde]

High IQ children are often permanently harmed in the dysfunctional home, to the point they become so deficient in social skills, they are unable to function at their best and highest levels.

This point is excellently explained in the best-selling 1996 book, Prisoners Of Childhood: The Drama of the Gifted Child and the Search for the True Self by Polish-Swiss psychologist Alice Miller. it was a life-changing read for me in grad school.

[The Duke]

"True, because the burden of knowing can be huge whereas those walking around oblivious have not a care in the world."

Also, because a high-IQ person can spend years absorbed in solving a single problem to perfection, while someone else solves the same problem sooner (and maybe less perfectly).

[Steely Tom]

No exceptions to the rule.................

Dass right.

[alexander_busek]

There is also a theory under research in high-IQ areas like Silicon Valley that many autistic children are the result of two high-IQ parents, particularly if the father or grandfather was in engineering. An article about it appeared in Wired magazine maybe 20 years ago. While some autistic kids may be language-impaired or otherwise quite visibly handicapped, others are “savants”, whose very high IQ must contend with social awkwardness and behavioral tics in the personality.

Did you "hack" my FB account or something? This description is "spot on."

Regards,

[Albion Wilde]

No, I don't do FB.

I found the article; it is indeed from 21 years ago:

The Geek Syndrome
Autism—and its milder cousin Asperger's syndrome—is surging among
the children of Silicon Valley. Are math-and-tech genes to blame?

[Lurker]

I tested about the same. And my story is similar. I ain’t rich, not yet anyway. But I can sure spot BS quicker than the average bear.

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[ClearCase_guy]

bfl