Scientists Conclude Dire Climate Change Models Were Wrong, Now What?

Mish Talk ^ | 02/07/2022 | Mike Shedlock

[BenLurkin]

ping

[D Rider]

Been saying this for 35 years. While water vapor can be considered a greenhouse gas, cloud cover acts as a negative feedback. The hotter it gets, the more water vapor. The more water vapor, the more cloud cover. The more cloud cover, the more cooling. Water is what keeps the earth in the habitable range. (This is a gross simplification, but you get the idea)

[\/\/ayne]

I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now...

[miserare]

Greta is throwing herself into a fjord somewhere.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now...

The singer of that song wants to cancel Joe Rogan from Spotify.

[No Party Affiliation]

I was in grad school studying climate in the early 80s and clouds were recognized as being vety difficult to model correctly even then. These twits don’t seem to have learned much in 40 years.

[Vision]

Now we defund them and investigate them for fraud.

[nascarnation]

Millions for that Eco Yacht when she coulda bought a big honkin diesel.....

[xp38]

She’d cancel FR if she could or even knew about us.

[FrankRizzo890]

it goes without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway:

[D Rider]

But they did spend a lot of time and money playing with models, which did support the socialization of science on a global scale. The first step in the great reset. In that they have been very successful.

[dsrtsage]

But but but

It has been proven over and over again that the average temperature of the earth can be calculated as

Te = 58 + log(CO2)/log(280) * 1.7

[FreedomPoster]

Anyone with a higher-level engineering background, who has done lots of partial differential equations of the sort needed to model the atmosphere, knows this whole thing is begin done for grants. The mathematics are impossibly complex, the idea of being able to with full assurance predict things 5 - 10 decades out is pure absurdity.

[colorado tanker]

We don't need the models. For 20 years CO2 levels have been above anything seen in the ice core data and probably during the entire Quaternary. But the impact on global temps has been slight.

Conclusions any real scientist would make? The models don't work. CO2 is not the driving force behind the warming trend Earth has been experiencing since the end of the last Ice Age.

[null and void]

Now what?

Double down on stupid, DUH!

[joma89]

Burn more wood and try to make their models correct?

[null and void]

Suspicious0bservers.org will be fun tomorrow!

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

The singer of that song wants to cancel Joe Rogan from Spotify.

I did not know Roger Whittaker had expressed a view on Joe Rogan. :)

[Jambe]

As a retired Electrical Engineer it is clear to me that it will not take a supercomputer 1,000 times more powerful than current available technology for 1) these “climate Experts” to pull a new number out of their ‘arse’ and 2) it will be wrong!