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Mariupol Defenders Reject Russian Demand for Surrender Setting up the Largest Siege of a City Since WW II
Red State ^ | 03/20/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 03/20/2022 9:55:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Lurker

Strictly speaking, it is not true. Everybody was talking about the Russian buildup at border, but nobody was talking about the Ukrainian buildup against Donetsk, which was of similar sized force and predated the Russian buildup.


21 posted on 03/21/2022 4:22:45 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Which army crossed which border?

Did the Ukrainian Army cross the Russian border?

No, they did not.

Did the Russian Army cross the Ukrainian border?

Yes, they did.

Is the Ukrainian Air Force bombing Russian cities?

No, they are not.

Is the Russian Air Force bombing Ukrainian cities?

Yes, they are.

Russia had no legal justification for starting this war. Every single death on both sides is on Putin.

L


22 posted on 03/21/2022 4:27:11 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

There were instances of Ukrainian armor crossing the border a day before, similar to 2016 Crimean provocation.
Also Russia is a guarantor of the Minsk agreements, meaning it is responsible for the security of the LDNR residents.


23 posted on 03/21/2022 4:33:56 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

“There were instances of Ukrainian armor crossing the border a day before.

Did the Ukrainian armor fire their weapons at a city full of innocent people?

No, they did not.

Once again, so even a Russian can understand it. Putin had NO legal justification for invading a sovereign country.

None.

Ukraine isn’t bombing Russia. Ukraine isn’t laying siege to Russian cities.

Russia IS bombing Ukraine. Russia IS laying siege to Ukrainian cities.

Those are the facts. And no amount of spin changes that.

None.

L


24 posted on 03/21/2022 4:41:40 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Where have you been during Iraq II?


25 posted on 03/21/2022 4:43:32 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Lurker
“If the Russians hadn’t started shooting missiles and artillery at the city none of this would have happened.”

No, it’s been happening for years already at the hands of Azov.

26 posted on 03/21/2022 5:36:11 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Lurker
“ There is the small issue of Russia illegally and without any military provocation invading a sovereign country and bombing their cities.‘

Exactly. Just as the US did in Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. As well as waging proxy wars in Yemen and Egypt. And Ukraine is a bigger threat to Russia than any of those countries ever were to us.

27 posted on 03/21/2022 5:39:29 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Azov crossed the border into Russia with 75,000 men, tanks, artillery, and warplanes?

When did that happen?

L


28 posted on 03/21/2022 5:45:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

No they’ve just been slaughtering Russian sympathizers for years. Paybacks are a bit*h. Don’t start something you aren’t willing to see through.


29 posted on 03/21/2022 5:53:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: chuckb87

RE: Sure, as soon as you can get the ghost I mean coward of kieve to come forward.

Thanks, but that does not answer my question. I asked for a reliable source to back up the accusation. Your response is a non-starter.


30 posted on 03/21/2022 6:14:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: circlecity

No they’ve just been slaughtering Russian sympathizers for years.”

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

L


31 posted on 03/21/2022 7:08:24 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: NorseViking

“Russia is a guarantor of the Minsk agreements, meaning it is responsible for the security of the LDNR residents.”

Russian propaganda from our resident (among several) Russians.

Russian has been in violation of the Minsk agreement as they are the foreign military that is obligated to leave Ukraine.


32 posted on 03/21/2022 7:14:16 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Lurker

LOL, this is a doozy of a threat. We got an admitted Russian as in the FakeViking.

And we got a Liberaltarian anti American traitor, sounding off...rooting for our #2 enemy and ally of China, our #1 enemy.


33 posted on 03/21/2022 7:18:00 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: rbmillerjr

If Russia was in Ukraine before 2022, why all the hassle now?


34 posted on 03/21/2022 7:31:47 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Crimea illegal annexation resulted in Russia getting kicked out of the G8, turning it into the G7.

That was a hassle back in 2014.


35 posted on 03/21/2022 7:36:11 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: rbmillerjr

You wasn’t talking about Crimea.


36 posted on 03/21/2022 7:37:06 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

“If Russia was in Ukraine before 2022, why all the hassle now?”

You were. Crimea was invaded and taken by force in 2014.


37 posted on 03/21/2022 7:47:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Lurker
“ You say that like it’s a bad thing.”

Just as you with regard to the invasion.

38 posted on 03/21/2022 7:47:46 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rbmillerjr

Minsk agreements aren’t about Crimea, which is about as Russian as Texas is American.


39 posted on 03/21/2022 7:48:47 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: circlecity

Kill a commie for mommy.

That’s my philosophy.

The more dead Russian commies the better. And I don’t really care who’s doing the killing.

Hope that clears things up for you.

L


40 posted on 03/21/2022 7:51:00 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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