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Lessons From Handgun Defense Failures Against Bears
AmmoLand ^ | April 4, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/06/2022 5:11:57 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: coloradan

Whew! I’d say that’s overkill! Have you no consideration for critters, two-legged and four-legged alike, down-range of the target bear?


21 posted on 04/06/2022 7:17:08 AM PDT by old school
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To: Magnum44

I always liked that cartoon...


22 posted on 04/06/2022 7:38:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
We have black bears in the mountains south of Pocatello. Grizzlies have been observed as close as Soda Springs (SE of Pocatello). When I go hiking, I carry a S&W 629 (4" barrel 44mag) with factory 240 gr JHP. Since my last hike, I now have the option of carrying 10mm with 180 gr in magazine sizes from 10 to 15 rds. Thus far, no need to discharge a round. A couple local hunters picked up a mountain lion after one stopped to pee on a tree. The cat tracked them all the way back to the parking lot.
23 posted on 04/06/2022 7:44:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: marktwain

Failure to stop a bear attack with a handgun can be traced to marksmanship capability. Most center fire handguns, especially .357 and larger will stop a bear with correct shot placement. Of course, some give more “margin” for error than others. A .22 MIGHT also stop a bear, but it would probably take a direct hit in the eye socket for it to reach the brain, certainly difficult, if not near impossible during a confrontation. Classic target stance and drawing a measured breath and releasing half of it before gently squeezing the trigger on a stationary target just isn’t going to happen...


24 posted on 04/06/2022 7:44:41 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Magnum44

It bears repeating.....................


25 posted on 04/06/2022 8:05:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Quickgun
Classic target stance and drawing a measured breath and releasing half of it before gently squeezing the trigger on a stationary target just isn’t going to happen...

Defenses against bears are more diverse than most people think.

Black bears, particularly, often approach people in predatory manner, "testing" the new prey. This gives plenty of time to pop the bear in the brain, while the bear is within about 20 feet. Black bears often retreat if hurt, because most attacks are predatory rather than territorial.

Polar bears are kind of in between. Most cases, the bear doesn't charge all out, but approaches somewhat cautiously, "testing" the thing they have not encountered before. This gives time to react.

Grizzly bears seem the most aggressive, but even then, there are a fair number of cases where the bear is shot at very close range. Sometimes the pistol is shoved against the bears head and fired.

26 posted on 04/06/2022 8:09:09 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Red Badger

27 posted on 04/06/2022 8:16:48 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: FreedomPoster
All a .22 pistol will do is anger the bear even more.

That's worthy of a nomination for a Darwin Award.

28 posted on 04/06/2022 8:18:38 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: LouAvul

I think they quit making the 3 1/2” slugs, just about the time I found out they existed.


29 posted on 04/06/2022 8:29:14 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Red Badger

Dumb bear, wrong ammo for the shotgun


30 posted on 04/06/2022 8:30:29 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Night Hides Not
All a .22 pistol will do is anger the bear even more.

Many large animals have been killed with .22 pistols.

The biggest problem with a .22 is you have to be more precise. There is less room for error.

But... if you know where to aim (one of the largest problems on a bear), a .22 will kill the bear with the proper shot placement.

Big bears are not always moving their head violently. Several recent .22 pistols hold between 16 and 33 shots.

At close range (under 30 feet) firing rapidly aimed shots at the brain (not the head!) There is a good chance you will kill, disable or dissuade even a large bear.

31 posted on 04/06/2022 9:23:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Cold Heart
Well, dang. I was just planning to go solo hiking and camping in griz country with my trusty Remington 870 and 3 1/2 inch slugs.

That's it. Gonna stay home now.

32 posted on 04/06/2022 9:26:58 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: marktwain

In my opinion the 44 mag is the best handgun for bears for the simple fact that it is more than up to the job, AND you can find 44 mag ammo everywhere you go.

Your super duper bear pistol won’t do you much good if your ammo gets lost in the airport and they don’t stock them within 500 miles of where you will be hunting/camping/fishing.

Every Hwd and general store in bear country will have 44 mag in 240 gr.


33 posted on 04/06/2022 9:48:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U ("Per DNC instructions...Joy Reid is busy packing marbles up her @$$.")
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To: marktwain

I’ll take your word for it, FRiend...lol.


34 posted on 04/06/2022 11:45:41 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Probably just pissed them off.
The bear was going to leave the alone, but now.......


35 posted on 04/06/2022 2:00:57 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Night Hides Not
I am not arguing for the use of a .22 as a bear gun.

However, it has been effective, and it beats bare hands, a sharp stick, or a knife or rock.

36 posted on 04/06/2022 2:28:34 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Looking at Bella Twins shots on the cranium of her
Record setting bear,
Would you elaborate more on
Shot Placement?


37 posted on 04/06/2022 3:23:38 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (On the Other hand,,, Free Men Choose- - SLAVES OBEY)
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To: Big Red Badger
Here is an article on it.

Bella Twin put the bear down with one shot. The rest were placed to make sure the bear stayed down.

38 posted on 04/06/2022 3:31:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Thanks Dean,
Seems I’ve relocated to “Heaven” that’s had a Bear
Removed from the Park.
I thought Rattle Snakes
were going to be the Worst
Critter here but Northern Arizona has Brown Bears !


39 posted on 04/06/2022 4:23:56 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (On the Other hand,,, Free Men Choose- - SLAVES OBEY)
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To: Big Red Badger

They may be brown, but they are not grizzly bears.


40 posted on 04/06/2022 4:43:17 PM PDT by marktwain
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