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The Blood on George W. Bush’s Hands
Substack ^ | May 19, 2022 | Pedro L. Gonzalez

Posted on 05/20/2022 12:12:45 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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41 posted on 05/20/2022 5:17:20 PM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; Born in 1950; Georgia Girl 2; Lurkinanloomin; packagingguy; SaveFerris; ...
I have been reading this site daily since 2004. It was the expose of Dan Rather's fake Bush National Guard memo that introduced me to this place. I finally have decided to create an account because I cannot believe what I am reading.

Is the position of Free Republic really that the Iraq War was unjustified? Worse, that "Bush lied and people died?" Really? After years of this site fighting that leftist anti-American blood libel? This place was a beacon of truth, using the facts to combat the left's treasonous lies. The irrefutable justification for the war, the many quotes from the rats about wmds.

Now, I regularly see those same lies regurgitated here on a regular basis. To say this is distressing would be a huge understatement. It is infuriating, frustrating, and downright sickening. What the hell has happened to Free Republic's commitment to conservative principles and the truth.

It's clear to me what is going on. You have embraced someone who was a leftist during Bush's presidency. Like a typical leftist, he lied through his teeth. Not just any lie. Treasonous blood libel. To embrace him, you have adopted his lies as your own. In the process, you have turned your back on everything FR has stood for.

Think I'm making it up? This is what he wrote in his 2000 book,"The America We Deserve":

Consider Iraq. After each pounding from U.S . warplanes, Iraq has dusted itself off and gone right back to work developing a nuclear arsenal. Six years of tough talk and U.S. fireworks in Baghdad have done little to slow Iraq's crash program to become a nuclear power. They've got missiles capable of flying nine hundred kilometers—more than enough to reach Tel Aviv. They've got enriched uranium. All they need is the material for nuclear fission to complete the job, and, according to the Rumsfeld report, we don't even know for sure if they've laid their hands on that yet. That's what our last aerial assault on Iraq in 1999 was about. Saddam Hussein wouldn't let UN weapons inspectors examine certain sites where that material might be stored. The result when our bombing was over? We still don't know what Iraq is up to or whether it has the material to build nuclear weapons. I'm no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don't, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us.

That was before GWB had served even one day as president. Of course, 7 years later he would call for Bush's impeachment for "lying about wmds." He would then repeat this lie on the Republican primary stage in 2016.

The facts speak for themselves, and the facts haven't changed. Yet, this once beacon of truth has turned its back on facts and integrity. Sometimes I torture myself and read left-wing boards. I shake my head at the total delusion and insanity. Lately, I all too often feel the same way here. That's a sad commentary.

Honestly, 2004 Free Republic would kick 2022 Free Republic's ass, and enjoy every second of it.

42 posted on 05/20/2022 6:16:50 PM PDT by Geo81 (Conservatism, not populism)
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To: Geo81
In 2002 Bush asked us to trust him, there were WMDs. He couldn't tell us how he knew or show us the evidence. We just had to trust him.

Many of us right here, in spite of your revisionist history, were uneasy about that invasion at the time. Iraq hadn't attacked us and we were given no reason for it other than "trust me". So we made a judgement call on whether we trusted Bush. I and many others gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Over the next decade one question remained: So, uh, all those WMDs that Bush knew all about for sure ... umm, where are they?

Bush's miserable second term where all he did day, every day was push over and over and over and over for amnesty and then growl in anger at conservatives who wouldn't accept it is what made us take a hard look at who he was and is, not Trump.

43 posted on 05/20/2022 6:26:42 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Geo81

Here’s a more pertinent question: Why are you bringing up a book by Donald Trump and Dave Shiflet as though that has anything to do with an article written by Pedro L. Gonzalez?

Why are you bringing up Dan Rather’s fake National Guard memo as though that has anything to do with the Bush Administration’s handling of the Iraq War and its aftermath?


44 posted on 05/20/2022 6:34:30 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Geo81

A lot of us were hoodwinked by the Bushes and their fellow Bush League Republicans.

Every border matters but ours.

I am done with people who think defending America does not include stopping the flood of illegal aliens.


45 posted on 05/20/2022 6:36:13 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Geo81

Was your only reason to enter FR so you could harangue, dismiss, ridicule and demonize this fine forum.

I suggest you turn around and go back to DU


46 posted on 05/20/2022 6:41:51 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Geo81
Yeah, you just joined today to ........ whatever, dude. What's your other screen name?
47 posted on 05/20/2022 6:43:30 PM PDT by LouAvul (Comfort is the enemy of courage.)
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To: Geo81

The “real” reason GW Bush wanted to get rid of Saddam were numerous (that had nothing to do with WMD’s).

1) Saddam had tried to assassinate Bush Sr. in 1993 and the Bill Clinton response was inadequate (Clinton ordered a hellfire missile on a building in downtown Baghdad that killed a janitor).

2) When Bin Laden launched the attacks during 9/11, it gave Bush the excuse to take out the Taliban AND Saddam Hussein (even though Colin Powel was against it).

3) Removing Saddam would realign the regional power in the middle east toward Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Persian Gulf states aligned with the USA.

The biggest mistake Bush did was not removing the mullahs in Iran. They are the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world (not including our own CIA and FBI led by Obama).


48 posted on 05/20/2022 6:49:19 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: Geo81

You sound like a warmongering neocon. Where, exactly are the WMDs that Bush started a war over?


49 posted on 05/20/2022 6:50:17 PM PDT by laconic
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To: SaveFerris

50 posted on 05/20/2022 6:56:57 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: pepsi_junkie

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51 posted on 05/20/2022 6:58:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Dick Bachert

And now his good friends are Barry and Michelle and he said nothing for 8 years.


52 posted on 05/20/2022 7:00:44 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Geo81

Free Republic has no views on anything. It is a site where people come and post articles and express opinions

I didn’t like W from the get home. The Iraq war was illconceived and unnecessary. Thought so then and still do

If you don’t like or support Trump that’s fine. But don’t kid yourself. DJT lives this country and thinks it deserves better. That’s hardly a leftist ideology


53 posted on 05/20/2022 7:08:03 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: pepsi_junkie
My revisionist history? Oh that's rich. You're the ones revising history. Everyone said Hussein had wmds.The long list of dems who said the same thing was regularly posted on FR at one time. Trump, who is now beloved here, said the same thing in 2000. Why did they all say it? Because Sadaam Hussein did have wmds. We know that. They likely went to Syria.<\p>

Iraq declared war on America. You do know that breaking a cease fire is a declaration of war, right? Hussein violated every part of the cease fire and every UN resolution against him. Iraq never attacked us? What do you call regularly firing at our jets? An attack on our military is not an attack on America?

Why are you echoing the lies of the left?

54 posted on 05/20/2022 7:26:30 PM PDT by Geo81 (Conservatism, not populism)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
This article by pos Pedro Gonzalez is spewing the usual lies of the left that Iraq was unjustified and Bush lied us into war. You seriously don't see the relevance of Trump's words from before Bush's presidency? It completely exposes Gonzalez's claims for what they are: insidious lies. The same goes for anyone who spews those lies, as the anti-American left has been doing for nearly 20 years.

I only mention the Rather expose, because its how I found Free Republic.

55 posted on 05/20/2022 7:26:39 PM PDT by Geo81 (Conservatism, not populism)
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To: Geo81

Before Bush’s invasion there were 1.4 million Christians in Iraq. Several years ago there were less than 250,000. Because of Bush’s war, they were killed or forced out. I never hear Bush express concerns for them like he has many times for those south of our border.

The vast majority of the 9/11 hijackers had Saudi passports. Why didn’t we invade Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq? I never understood that.

Iran is trying to acquire nuclear weapons. So is North Korea. Are we going to invade them as well? Where does it stop?

Bush did nothing to stop slow down the mortgage fraud that brought about the 2008 housing collapse.

A lot of people fought for Bush to prevent the Democrats stealing the 2000 election. Yet in 2020, Bush ridiculed those even trying to investigate the election fraud. He even penned a note to Trump to concede the day after the election.

Many of us on Free Republic have become wiser and admitted their past mistakes. Why not you?


56 posted on 05/20/2022 7:27:32 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: Nifster

That is how it works with The Party. There are those in the party and those who are out. The Party is full of R’s and D’s. The ones outside of The Party are in the minor leagues, if they learn “how to play ball” they may be invited to play and work their way up into the starting lineup. It is easy, you just put Party above principle.


57 posted on 05/20/2022 7:54:56 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Guenevere
Of course not. When I found FR in 2004, it quickly became one of my very favorite sites. I've been a daily reader ever since. I'm a life-long conservative. I absolutely loved when this place was so committed to conservatism and the truth.

Go back to DU? I'm saddened that FR sounds more and more like DU all the time. You're literally repeating the lies of the DUmmies.

58 posted on 05/20/2022 7:59:24 PM PDT by Geo81 (Conservatism, not populism)
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To: LouAvul
Sigh. I don't have any other screen names. Yes, I just "joined" today. However, I've been a reader since 2004. As you know, Free Republic has many more readers than posters.

Do you have anything substantive to say? You're more than welcome to try to prove me wrong.

59 posted on 05/20/2022 7:59:24 PM PDT by Geo81 (Conservatism, not populism)
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To: Psalm 73

Principle over politics, we in the end will have a better country. We need to quit voting for the lesser of two evils.


60 posted on 05/20/2022 8:01:50 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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