Posted on 08/04/2022 2:27:02 PM PDT by Noumenon
Just one of dozens of economically depressed Upstate NY canal towns.
Beautiful architecture in most of them. You can tell that at one point they were thriving, prosperous places to live.
Then NYS government happened.
Those small towns will remain a thing of the past as long as NYS hangs onto its corrupt and immoral government.
Just another reason we moved out of NYS.
What planet do you live on?
Generally, the only power people have over you is what you let them have.
Yes, I realize there are exceptions, but if more people en mass stopped obeying unlawful orders from politicians, we’d be freer and better off.
While we have left CNY and are glad for being away from the government and the dreary weather, there are some stunningly beautiful areas of Upstate and I do miss the agriculture and other aspects of the state.
There was a lot to do in Upstate and I enjoyed the rural life there.
My kids have had that epiphany.
We just closed last week on 5.75 acres 67 miles north of Where we live now which is the N Atlanta burbs. We are working night and day to get it set up to move to ASAP. Its a rural community of like minded folks. The city is getting really bad. Crime is soaring.
Well, welcome to the neighborhood!
Glad you are getting out while the getting is good.
Up here in North Idaho, we have the opposite problem. All our small towns have doubled, tripled, or more in population the past 10 to 15 years. The growth is horrendous and people wish it would stop and we can go back to what we had.
Upstate New York has been on a downward trajectory forever. I grew up there and did a lot of business there in the 80s and 90s. All sorts of business incentives have been tried to arrest the decline, but nothing works. The state was and still is very business-hostile. Like California. They simply cannot jettison their woke-liberal ways to save their states. It’s the same all over the country.
“Real estate is crazy cheap in American towns”
That was true until about 2018 or 2019. All over the US, locals are squeezed out with soaring real estate prices. Real estate has almost tripled here in North Idaho in that time frame. The paper and NextDoor app are full of people bemoaning the lack of affordable housing.
Have you had V-Bar-X ranch meats? They have the best bacon!
“Teenagers hold doors open for me and call me sir”
Yep, it’s the same here in North Idaho. The kids at the restaurants and markets all ask “How’s your day going? Doing anything interesting today? Got any plans” and they all mean it. It isn’t just a put-on taught them by the store manager.
We're seeing a LOT of California / Oregon / Washington refugees moving in. Our new next door neighbors came from Vancouver WA and they're solid folks, thank heavens. So not all of the noobs are garbage people, but some certainly are. Usually, all it takes is one or two Panhandle winters to send them elsewhere.
It's anyone's guess how this is going to go down, but go down it will. No guarantees, but the solid, dependable, skilled and resourceful among us will pull through.
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I bought an 80 acre parcel far from "civilization" about five years ago. Built a house and integrated myself into the community. My Mennonite neighbors have told me they will feed me if things get that bad. I own a 65 acre forest with millions of BTUs of stored energy. I have a well.
I have become a simple observer of the fall of the West. Personally, I will not participate.
“Upstate NY is a pretty good place to live.”
Small towns in western NYS also are very nice — where I grew up. They’re actually more “Tennessee” than Tennessee is in some ways. When we visit, we see more Confederate flags there than we do in TN — seriously. (THEY know the flags don’t represent slavery; THEY know they’re symbols of rugged individualism and freedom.)
“the need to organize the activities that support food production locally,”
Sounds a LITTLE like the socialist Grange my ancestors were involved in decades ago.
Throw in some Black Angus beef, some dairy, a few chickens for meat and eggs, and some fish and, yes, they will survive on that diet.
The trucks have to run to the factory farms with their inputs and then from the factory farms to the cities to feed the multitudes. People in rural areas only need the things they cannot produce or gather themselves. Salt, sugar, and baking powder come to mind.
In my local community many families produce virtually all their food and are happy to sell a vast surplus. This is in a fairly harsh climate with poor soil.
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